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Khabbi

08-14-2006, 01:17 PM Post subject: 25NL - Over Pushing, Will This Stop Working?

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So I have the 3rd nuts and by the time we get to the river I have the villain on a high Q. I don't know if this will lose me value in the long run, but lately I've found that grossly overbetting the pot on the river is getting results. For the times I miss, I'm getting paid off huge the rest of the time.

Hand 848145968, Started at 13/08/2006 9:50 PM
Table 'Suva': $0.25-$0.25 No Limit HE (Real)
Seat 0: woggerz ($29.90 in chips)
Seat 1: ChrisCroz ($29.65 in chips)
Seat 2: Aces9591 ($11.75 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerminator ($7.95 in chips)
Seat 4: yu2x ($17.35 in chips)
Seat 5: DRout ($26.55 in chips)
Seat 6: sitkaran ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 7: -sparks- ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 8: tommyJ1975 ($16.55 in chips)
Seat 9: askulf1 ($24.95 in chips) (on the button)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to ChrisCroz: 8s
Dealt to ChrisCroz: Qs
woggerz : Post Blind ($0.15)
ChrisCroz : Post Blind ($0.25)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
Aces9591 : Fold
pokerminator : Call ($0.25)
yu2x : Bet ($0.50)
DRout : Fold
sitkaran : Fold
-sparks- : Fold
tommyJ1975 : Fold
askulf1 : Fold
woggerz : Fold
ChrisCroz : Call ($0.25)
pokerminator : Call ($0.25)
*** Flop *** : 8c 2d Qc
ChrisCroz : Bet ($1)
pokerminator : Fold
yu2x : Raise ($3)
ChrisCroz : Call ($2)
*** Turn *** : [ 8c 2d Qc ] Qd
ChrisCroz : Check
yu2x : Check
*** River *** : [ 8c 2d Qc Qd ] 10h
ChrisCroz : Bet ($26.15)
ChrisCroz : All In ($26.15)
yu2x : Call ($13.85)
yu2x : All In ($13.85)
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $47.15 | Rake: $0.50
Board: [ 8c 2d Qc Qd 10h ]
woggerz lost $0.15
ChrisCroz bet $29.65, collected $47.15, net $17.50 Shows [ 8s Qs ] (a full house, Queens full of eights) Aces9591 lost $0
pokerminator lost $0.50
yu2x lost $17.35 Shows [ As Qh ] (three Queens)
DRout lost $0
sitkaran lost $0
-sparks- lost $0
tommyJ1975 lost $0
askulf1 lost $0

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biondino

08-14-2006, 01:47 PM

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You really put him on the case queen? Are you sure you're not being results-oriented?

Miffed22001

08-14-2006, 01:58 PM

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id push this river bcoz u pwn any hand that had you bat on the flop.

Khabbi

08-14-2006, 03:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biondino

You really put him on the case queen? Are you sure you're not being results-oriented?

You're right, my range for him was higher on the flop. His raise on the flop tells me he's either got the high Q or has made a set. It's a drawless board so his re-raise could just be testing me for a bluff so I just call with 2 pair, hoping to see another Q or a low card.

Sweet, I get the Q to fill my boat and hopefull his too. I check to look weak hoping he'll bet it for me, which he doesn't *now he's getting tricky*. I don't see someone playing a low boat here like that, I guess it would happen, but I don't think it would be a good play.

Now I think he has a high Q because all other boats are out (or at least unlikely). He's probably got me on a worse Q, but isn't worried about Q8 or QT. Maybe he's thinking KQ or QJ or nothing at all. My overbet looks like a horrible bluff at this point and he's got what he thinks is the winning hand.

So yeah, I had him on the case Q by the time we got to the river. AQ, KQ were most likely and I didn't think it was QJ or QT, I don't see those hands re-raising on the flop.

bantam222

08-14-2006, 07:18 PM

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how many people are going to fold in that spot anyway? I would assume most people at 25NL would re-raise all in anyway.

If you value bet the river you might get paid by2 pair.

Vrax

08-14-2006, 07:27 PM

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Bet the turn.

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08-14-2006, 07:29 PM

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Bet the turn.

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