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Old 09-28-2006, 03:52 AM     Post subject: 25NL OESD how did I play it? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($25)
CO ($14.90)
Button ($25.65)
SB ($35.65)
BB ($22)
UTG ($10.55)
UTG+1 ($15.45)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($39.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T, J. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero (poster) checks, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.75) Q, 9, 5 (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.25.

Turn: ($3.50) 4 (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, CO bets $1, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $1, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls $1.

River: ($6.50) K (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.75, Hero raises to $7, CO folds, UTG+1 calls $5.25.

Final Pot: $20.50
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:57 AM #2 (permalink)  
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This ain't in the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport.

Pre-flop - fine
Flop - 6 outs to the nuts, I think this is OK
Turn - Bet here when checked to, as played calling is good
river - fine
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:00 AM #4 (permalink)  
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i think this is the standard way online players play thier OESDs, very readable. I like to bet my nut flushes and OESDS on flop, and dont mind taking it down right there. If i get callers then the pot gets nice and juicy when i do actually hit.
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yep i agree with Terry, get this two or three handed with a semi-bluff on flop. Chase out flush draws with this aggression, serving the dual purpose of moving counterfeited outs.

DOing this on the flop will also give you the advantage of gauging opps strength and likely hood of firing a double barrel on turn to take down weak pot.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:29 AM #6 (permalink)  
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i think this is the standard way online players play thier OESDs, very readable.
IT'S A 7 FRACK'N WAY POT IN A 25NL GAME. No other way to play it.
 
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i think this is the standard way online players play thier OESDs, very readable.
IT'S A 7 FRACK'N WAY POT IN A 25NL GAME. No other way to play it.
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This ain't in the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport.

Pre-flop - fine
Flop - 6 outs to the nuts, I think this is OK
Turn - Bet here when checked to, as played calling is good
river - fine
bet turn?? we are like 13% to hit the nuts, and we probably wont have any other outs to a winning hand with 7 people in this pot
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:56 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Semibluffing in this pot would be very silly. They won't all fold if we bet and they'll pay off anyway if we hit. No need to get fancy.
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Old 09-28-2006, 06:27 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Sometimes I play like that sometimes I semibluff. I figure
out that someone with fl draw or top pair is going to
pay anyway.

Nh and good result.
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Pre-flop - fine
Flop - 6 outs to the nuts, I think this is OK
Turn - Bet here when checked to, as played calling is good
river - fine
bet turn?? we are like 13% to hit the nuts, and we probably wont have any other outs to a winning hand with 7 people in this pot
I forgot to qualify that with I wasn't any good at ring...

Betting the flop isn't getting many folds. You are not chasing any strong flush draws out, or retards who hit a piece of the flop. FE is minimal here, which is a critical part of semi-bluffing being +eV. As for semi-bluffing increasing implied odds on the latter streets, I don't know and didn't consider it.

Betting the turn with several checks, now you have more fold equity. Bigger pot, nothing invested on this street, no over card so no-one thinks they are better off now than on the flop.

So whatever, that was my stunted thought process...
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FE is minimal here, which is a critical part of semi-bluffing being +eV.
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fold equity in this hand is approximately -265%.
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