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Old 03-09-2008, 07:13 AM     Post subject: 25nl monochrome board, wierd action, tough river. #1 (permalink)  
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V seemed pretty loose(75/6/.5), but I didn't have a big sample set on him.

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SB ($17.95)
BB ($25)
UTG ($12.80)
MP1 ($20.90)
Hero ($25)
CO ($26.10)
Button ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9, 9.
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1.

Flop: ($4) 4, Q, 5 (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $3, Hero raises to $8, SB folds, MP1 calls $5.

Turn: ($20) 3 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($20) 5 (2 players)
MP1 bets $11.65 (All-In), Hero...

Push behind on the turn to avoid this?
I'm putting Ahx is in his range here.
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:58 AM #2 (permalink)  
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0.5 af, fold flop
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Sample set is not nearly big enough to come to a conclusion about post-flop play.
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ok, what are you beating once he calls the re-raise?
 
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Sample set is not nearly big enough to come to a conclusion about post-flop play.
Then dont mention stats in the first place.


What are u "avoiding" by pushing turn? Given spr I´d shove turn for value, not to keep him from bluffing
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Old 03-10-2008, 03:24 PM #6 (permalink)  
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if he is 75/6 he can have so many hands including the 4 or the 5 that pushing the turn is pretty much required after your flop raise.

You could look at a miniscule postflop af another way (if it were relevant based on sample size). Such a small af probably means that he is slowplaying a lot of TP/2pr hands. If he is slowplaying TP then why is he attempting to take this pot down before the pf raiser gets to act? He could have a Q with no heart, either of the other cards on the board with or without a heart, random nonsensical hands, PP that may or may not have a heart, a random high heart, the possibilities are pretty well endless from this type of player.

put it in on the turn and expect to be called by a wide range of hands, most of which you are ahead of. definitely can't see folding the river with the way the hand played out.
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why are we raising flop if we aren't pushing turn?
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Sample set is not nearly big enough to come to a conclusion about post-flop play.
Then dont mention stats in the first place.
Because the sample set IS big enough to read him on pre-flop play. You got something against me or what?

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What are u "avoiding" by pushing turn? Given spr I´d shove turn for value, not to keep him from bluffing
Ok, good point. Call river then?

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if he is 75/6 he can have so many hands including the 4 or the 5 that pushing the turn is pretty much required after your flop raise.

You could look at a miniscule postflop af another way (if it were relevant based on sample size). Such a small af probably means that he is slowplaying a lot of TP/2pr hands. If he is slowplaying TP then why is he attempting to take this pot down before the pf raiser gets to act? He could have a Q with no heart, either of the other cards on the board with or without a heart, random nonsensical hands, PP that may or may not have a heart, a random high heart, the possibilities are pretty well endless from this type of player.

put it in on the turn and expect to be called by a wide range of hands, most of which you are ahead of. definitely can't see folding the river with the way the hand played out.
This is spot-on, he had j5 and tripped on the river.
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