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Im_new
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08-25-2008, 04:42 PM
Post subject: (25nl) Is KK broken these days?
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Full House
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hmmm....I feel like such a newb...but its seems more in NL than in SNG that people only stack-off with AA only. (though this is over a small sample size).
In a vacuum at these tables, is it correct to still stack off with KK?
Is it still correct to stack off against the nit at the table?
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of course ppl stack off with less than AA! Ppl are stacking odff with allsorts depending on stacksizes
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Im_new
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Full House
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yea... I'm most concerned about stacking off against a nit with say a $25 stack (same as you).... where does he become too nitty? If he were 9.2/x, and he re-raised you preflop...are you getting it in?
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Vrax
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Originally Posted by Im_new
yea... I'm most concerned about stacking off against a nit with say a $25 stack (same as you).... where does he become too nitty? If he were 9.2/x, and he re-raised you preflop...are you getting it in?
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Raise size, your position, his position, your history vs him does matter here, but folding preflop is still not an option if you have reasonably aggressive game.
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Im_new
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Full House
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That's pretty interesting considering hand two in this thread:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ts-t75141.html
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daven
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Originally Posted by Im_new
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that's 150bb deep, facing a 4-bet, with reads.
Standard advice is never fold KK pre up to 100bb deep. The deeper the stacks and the bigger the reads/action, the less this holds.
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Im_new
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Full House
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got it...thanks
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I prefer to think "never put yourself in a position to have to cold KK preflop." If you think he 3bet calling range/ fourbetting range is really really narrow, don't 3bet. If you are considering whether to 4bet, if all he's getting in preflop is AA then don't 4bet. easy.
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Im_new
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Full House
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yea... I agree with ya. I just ran into AA 4 times in a row with KK and was kinda annoyed/steamed. Not to mention that I'm new to cash tables (coming from 6+ tabling sngs) . In an SNG, I'm getting AI all the damn time without thinking twice.
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