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Old 05-31-2008, 12:07 AM     Post subject: 25NL AA against fishy TAGG #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is running 11/4/3.5. His small bets make me think semi-bluff FD or combo-draw. Do you raise the turn or try to show down cheap? And as played, how often do you go broke here with these draws on the board?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
5 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) J, 2, 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $4, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($10.10) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $7, BB raises to $28.2 (All-In), Hero tanks
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:16 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Don't let him see a cheap turn; reraise the flop and get it in.
 
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I don't think I stack off on a low flop like that with a 11/4/3.5 villain at 25NL ...
I think I call the turn bet IP and call up to 2/3 pot bet if Flush doesn't hit.
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:20 PM #4 (permalink)  
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What was your plan when you raised the turn?

I don't hate a fold here.

How would he play AJ/QQ/KK?
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:24 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't hate a fold here.
+1 but then i fold too much apparently
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:28 AM #6 (permalink)  
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What was your plan when you raised the turn?

I don't hate a fold here.

How would he play AJ/QQ/KK?
I think AJ/QQ/KK are capable of c/r that flop if they put me on air, but all the pussbets make me want to raise.

His tiny bets make me feel like he's on a draw of some sort, so I raised the turn to build a real pot and try to outprice him. But his push is strong so I think a fold is in order.
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:34 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I don't hate a fold here.
+1 but then i make too much $$$$ apparently
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:54 AM #9 (permalink)  
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If I have a draw, I don't hate your turn raise because it prices me in and gives me a nice big pot to bet into you with on the river and you probably have a hand that looks me up.

Raise to at least $10 and commit if you're going to raise it up on the turn.

Also, small bets have almost never been a draw read for me. Draws tend to check/call or bet/raise big.

I probably WTF call without a read on what his bets mean.

In a live game, I put him on anything but a draw and probably just raise a lot of money on the turn because that's what I do. I might even push.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:27 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Also, small bets have almost never been a draw read for me. Draws tend to check/call or bet/raise big.
Did you never spend a lot of time at uNL? The fish there are constantly making small bets with draws. The regulars don't, though.

Come to think, in this hand, villain is the tight type, so probably isn't betting small with a draw.
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:43 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I don't like the lack of a 3-bet on the flop.

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Old 06-02-2008, 12:59 AM #12 (permalink)  
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 If I gots less than 100 hands on him I'm happy to git'er in here on the turn or flop (preferably flop).

200+ hands this is tougher decision for me.

Sure he's nitty preflop, but how nitty is he postflop?

Also, for all we know he's not positionally aware, and is calling 11% of hands here...
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Also, for all we know he's not positionally aware, and is calling 11% of hands here...
I disagree with this. A lot of this will be open limping therefore his range to all a raise will be tighter.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:22 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Also, for all we know he's not positionally aware, and is calling 11% of hands here...
I disagree with this. A lot of this will be open limping therefore his range to all a raise will be tighter.
You're probably right -- I'm just pointing out that without deeper reads, this could be the case. Maybe he's loose about calling raises, but tight about limping, or vice-versa.
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