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Old 06-07-2009, 07:32 AM     Post subject: 25NL > 50NL gameplay question #1 (permalink)  
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Ok, so this isn't a typical "should I move up" post. I am on the edge of moving up to 50NL and as I was playing tonight I found myself wondering if I would have to change some of my play to continue profiting from certain hands.
As you'll notice I'm playing about 1/2 stacked. I prefer this method - haters I understand, I plan to graduate to full stacking someday, but for now this is my most +EV method.
So take a look at this hand and then read the rest of my question please.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($10)
UTG ($10.05)
MP1 ($30.25)
MP2 ($7.45)
CO ($47.85)
Hero (Button) ($12.90)
SB ($26.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero bets $1.50, 2 folds, MP1 calls $1.25, MP2 calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.85) Q, 8, 7 (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $2, MP1 raises to $10, MP2 calls $5.95 (All-In), Hero raises to $11.40 (All-In), MP1 calls $1.40

Turn: ($33.60) 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($33.60) 9 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $33.60 | Rake: $1.65

Obviously the results are better than I hoped for. But I'm wondering with moving up, will plays like this become really really hard to extract value with these sorts of plays?
***Let me be clear, this is not a standard flop bet/c-bet from me. I've been on this table for roughly 50-70 hands and these two opponents have both played loose (like 20%+ vpip) and mp1 has jumped people a few times when they show weakness. I let the timer go for a little longer than usual, and bet small hoping one would raise me, figuring I might string both of them along building the pot, getting shoved on by both was just gravy.
Obviously I'm killing these two guys with this board. My question is at 50NL is this a
[ ] terrible idea, never gonna work against even the fish
[ ] ok plan with standard slightly losing opponents
[ ] donk way to play such a strong flop
[ ] shut up Kijjo, you smell like tuna
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:12 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Did you really just ask if you should bet with the nuts?
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:14 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Btw, yes this will work just as well at 50nl as at 25nl.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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betting the nuts is always wrong. check to the river and shove there imo, that way it'll look like you're bluffing (but we know you're not.. SNEAKY!)
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Old 06-07-2009, 06:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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betting the nuts is always wrong. check to the river and shove there imo, that way it'll look like you're bluffing (but we know you're not.. SNEAKY!)
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EXACTLY what I was thinking.
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Old 06-07-2009, 06:15 PM #6 (permalink)  
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yes it will become harder to extract value as you up the limits but this board hits both their ranges very well and is worth betting on all streets.
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Old 06-07-2009, 07:59 PM #7 (permalink)  
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it will be slightly harder to extract from the average player. but fish will still pay you off and theres fish everywhere
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:16 AM #8 (permalink)  
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check check shove is actually a valid line that will pay off often enough then? hmm...
that's really the kind of comment I was looking for. as it turns out one had an oesd, the other a pp under Q's. If I waited 'til the river, not sure I would've gotten paid in this particular case, but one of them might've bet out along the way too.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:17 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 I thought the gap was bigger from 10nl to 25nl than from 25nl to 50nl. I would take my winning 25nl and try it out. Just have your bankroll management plan firmly in place and take your shot, imo.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:27 AM #10 (permalink)  
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i thought you were asking whether it was dumb to bet smaller than usual, and i would usually say yes, but i guess you had a read that one guy raises light when you do that. so nh.
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