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Old 08-27-2007, 06:58 PM     Post subject: 20NL flopped combo draw (royal flush draw!!) #1 (permalink)  
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GAME #638648535: Texas Hold'em NL $0.10/$0.20 2007-08-27 19:41:05
Table Corydon
Seat 1: festit54 ($3.80 in chips)
Seat 3: UndeadMage ($17.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Phasex ($20.56 in chips)
Seat 6: Muckimeister ($20.05 in chips)
Seat 8: TDoTfishy ($20.40 in chips) DEALER
Seat 10: pokerfitta26 ($32.49 in chips)
pokerfitta26: Post SB $0.10
festit54: Post BB $0.20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TDoTfishy [10h Qh]
Phasex: Fold
Muckimeister: Fold
TDoTfishy: Call $0.20
pokerfitta26: Raise $0.30
festit54: Call $0.20
TDoTfishy: Call $0.20
*** FLOP *** [5s Kh Jh]
pokerfitta26: Bet $3.20
festit54: Allin $3.40
TDoTfishy: Call $3.40
pokerfitta26: Call $0.20
*** TURN *** [D7]
pokerfitta26: Allin $28.69

*note... had seen pokerfitta make a big overbet twice before out of about 10-15 hands but had not shown down anything yet.

Is there any way I can call here?... my outs are obviously 4 9's 4A's and 9 hearts assuming nobody has any of these cards. 17/46 = 37% chance of hitting

I am not good at calculating pot odds and do not know how to yet but I know this pot is huge. I have $16.60 behind and the pot is $27.80 (this is not including the overlay of pokerfitta26's stack)
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I call for shits and giggles. I also reraise on the flop though. Try to get the money in there.
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 a couple of comments (people who know, please check my reasoning on 4 below!).
1) you have fifteen outs 9s, aces and hearts - but 9h and Ah are both, so count A/9 = six outs, hearts = nine outs.
2) I normally try and raise if I'm first to enter the pot, rather than limp.
3) I suggest re-raising the flop (probably all-in). Either you get a fold and probably take down the pot, or you get a call and you have fifteen outs, twice. Both are good.
4) I'm also a little iffy on pot odds, but you are putting in $16 to return close to 48 (make it easy!). So if you win this more than one in three times you are ahead. You're about 30% to win the pot, means it's about 50-50 as to whether you should call or fold.
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 Why are you not allin on the flop
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 shove flop plz
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you have tons of equity on the flop with a combo draw like this. shove there, or play passive the rest of the way (passive not recommended).

your equity drops in half once the turn card hits. you are likely a favorite on the flop, but likely a dog on the turn.

thats why you will see everyone say shove the flop.
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