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Old 11-22-2007, 04:00 PM     Post subject: 200NL - Why did u check turn? #1 (permalink)  
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Villian is pretty loose preflop, but seems good post
what hands are checking the turn and raise me on a blank river?

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($195.40)
UTG+1 ($200.00)
Hero ($228.30)
MP1 ($172.25)
MP2 ($122.30)
MP3 ($466.65)
CO ($33.70)
BTN ($220.85)
SB ($196.40)
BB ($193.10)

Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is UTG+2
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, MP3 calls $8, 4 folds

Flop: ($19, 2 players)
Hero bets $16, MP3 calls $16

Turn: ($51, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

River: ($51, 2 players)
Hero bets $31, MP3 raises to $64, $33 to Hero ($173.3)?
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:00 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 this is definitely a fold.

Im wondering if you could have played it different earlier. I think b/f the turn is better than this line, but I'm not really sure, and look forward to other ppls comments.
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 river has to be a c/f as whats he going to bet for value that you call and beat?
If opp bet $10 on river you might be making a ~ev/+ev play if you call but i doubt it.
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What might his range be to call 4bb pre flop. Maybe Good ace AK,AQ, AJ. A number of pairs looking to hit a set and not a lot else besides perhaps some big suited connectors.
By the river how much of this can you beat ? the pairs will only be betting if they made a set. AK made a straight probably the only hand that is in my range, goes with the betting and you beat is AQhearts. I would fold
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 A turn bet doesn't accomplish a whole lot since the only reasonable pair we beat that may call is KJ. A bet is better if the turn is a 7 since a couple more pairs may continue. I still don't like it, though. The Q bringing the gutshot doens't help much since it's mainly a pot saver, and won't bring much additional value.

I prefer to check turn since we're underrepping our hand, and this makes it easier to get one more street of value from a worse pair. If villian is good enough to know we don't have a 9, and good enough to know how to rep hands (not too likely) he'll raise the turn or double barrel the turn/river with something we beat. Since everybody loves to cbet, our range is quite wide from the flop, yet most of which wont see a showdown if it means we gotta pay out the ass.
 
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