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gametight

03-17-2009, 04:21 AM Post subject: 200NL set deep

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Villain is 16/14 and solid and one of the better regs.

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saw flop

MP2 ($217.65)
CO ($364.85)
Button ($80)
SB ($201)
Hero (BB) ($467.10)
UTG ($200)
UTG+1 ($37)
MP1 ($55.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, J

4 folds, CO bets $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($13) K

, J

, 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero raises to $28, CO calls $20

Turn: ($69) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $52, CO raises to $155
???

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mixchange

03-17-2009, 07:27 AM

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Barf and get it in

ATOTHEC101

03-17-2009, 07:32 AM

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your flop raise size isn't big enough, as played...meh I dunno, I wanna fold as the only hand he does this with that we beat is ak.

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KillsAids

03-19-2009, 07:29 AM

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wow, so sick. I think I fold. I don't think villain even plays AK like this because gametight is repping 66 here. I think the only hands we beat is AJhh and a 66 that thinks we're on a FD. Nice turn lead imo, I think this saved us a lot of money in this spot.

St8ofN8

03-19-2009, 10:31 PM

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As much as I would like to say call, I think this is a fold. I think this is the right line for AK, but its also a good line for AA or KK. LEt it go.

daven

03-20-2009, 12:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mixchange

Barf and get it in

175bb deep and this might be a fold? cr flop lead turn screams 66, and he still wants to get involved

You say villain is good, what does your flop c-r range look like to him?
Is it better to donk flop?

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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gametight

03-20-2009, 12:27 AM

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My flop c/r range against him is KJ, alot of heart draws, combo draws, sets, sometimes KQ, gutshots and a little bit of air in the mix.

I choose to c/r flop rather than lead because he is going to bet his air on this board alot, and fold it if I lead.

markz168

03-20-2009, 01:45 AM

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I would go allin, put more pressure on him, look like nut flush draw with top pair.

markz168

03-20-2009, 01:48 AM

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Ax hearts, that's what I would put him on.

daven

03-20-2009, 04:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gametight

do you lead an ace turn with much of this range?

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/

Deanglow

03-20-2009, 04:15 AM

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argh this is one of those spots where i wonder why i didn't 3bet preflop and just stick it now that i'm here

daven

03-20-2009, 04:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gametight

do you lead an ace turn with much of this range?

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/

gametight

03-20-2009, 05:36 AM

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there probly arent any pure bluffs in my range on that turn card. (Not sure if he knows this tho). Im still betting my combo draws, Axhh turned A, and my turned straights ie. QT. Also obv. betting my sets, and probly b/f KJ here.

Fnord

03-20-2009, 08:37 AM

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Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

Is he flatting KK or 66 on this flop? I think we can discount them. I think both are equally likely so they offset at least.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,232 games 0.015 secs 82,133 games/sec

Board: Kh Js 6h As
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.630% 57.63% 00.00% 710 0.00 { AA, AKs, QTs, AKo, QTo }
Hand 1: 42.370% 42.37% 00.00% 522 0.00 { JcJd }

Now throw in a little he had WTF???? equity and the money already in the pot makes this a gamble for a lot of money relative the action you're used to giving.

My only reservation is that he might get away from AK...

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Miffed22001

03-22-2009, 02:02 PM

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muck and feel unhappy - if this was against an ep raise id be more happy getting ti in - he opened the CO which definitly puts QT in his range much more.

My only concern if hes good is that he could do this with Ax hearts and now putting you to a big decision - and i dont quite think hes getting the odds to call the turn bet with just a bare FD and TP

Also cant see him getting it in with AK once you shove over him - i.e nothing worse calls IMO (if hes good hes capable of folding bottom set on this board this deep)

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