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Old 01-08-2008, 01:59 PM     Post subject: 200nl - River bet/fold spot with AJ #1 (permalink)  
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SB ($201)
Hero ($200)
UTG ($96.80)
UTG+1 ($91.30)
MP1 ($234)
MP2 ($257.70)
CO ($209)
Button ($195)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $4, MP2 calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($17) 5, J, Q (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($17) 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $12, Button folds, Hero calls $12, MP1 folds.

River: ($41) A (2 players)
Hero bets $24, ...

No stats on villain. Is it reasonable to bet/fold this river?
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:39 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I'm probably betting the flop, turn and river here. As played, I bet more like $32 just to make it easier to fold to a raise.
 
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Bet the flop, really? We have middle pair in a multiway raised pot, not by us. I raise/fold the turn because weak Qs and a 5 are betting.
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:21 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Looks good to me. I'm not going to ever advocate leading the flop here. Leading the turn isn't a bad idea though, as it may help get you away from trips raising any river bet. Leading the turn also hurts KT hands.


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Looks good to me. I'm not going to ever advocate leading the flop here. Leading the turn isn't a bad idea though, as it may help get you away from trips raising any river bet. Leading the turn also hurts KT hands.
I considered leading the turn for said reasons but I think I didn't because I thought MP2 and Button were stupid enough to have Qx or a 5 here but might bet with Qx or Jx. In retrospect that line might be better heads up but with multiple opponents it's likely that between the three of them there are a number of outs against me so I should have bet.
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 As played river is probably perfect. I have nothing else to say since I"m garbage from the blinds.

Actually, looking it over again, a turn bet is probably best. I really don't like c/c turn, dunno exactly why, but it just seems bad. If he bets river again I'm gonna feel stupid. But even then if I bet turn then I dont know what to do on river. If I check river and he bets I'm still gonna feel stupid.
 
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