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Renton
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07-16-2006, 10:43 AM
Post subject: 200nl QQ vs slag.
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Straight Flush
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Villain is 19.5/12 and seems somewhat solid. My image is 17/11 tag.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($404.72)
UTG+1 ($219.90)
MP1 ($151.59)
MP2 ($151.55)
MP3 ($156.45)
CO ($197)
Button ($175.30)
SB ($39)
Hero ($200)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q . SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 raises to $6, 1 fold, MP3 calls $6, 3 folds, Hero raises to $22, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $18, MP3 folds.
Flop: ($57) 9 , 9 , 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $35, MP1 calls $127.59 (All-In), Hero calls $92.59.
Turn: ($312.18) A (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($312.18) A (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $312.18
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arkana
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You are behind a solid player's range here. So unless there is some kind of history between you or you have seen him bluff in large pots I think you have to fold. Your hand looks like a big pair, so a solid player will be careful here with TT-JJ. Unless you made some big laydowns that he saw i dont think he would try bluffing you here. In the words of tuff_fish: "look at him! NO FEAR. NO FEAR I tell you!"
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Renton
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i think a diamond draw and overs makes up a significant percentage of his range, and I could see him having JJ here sometimes.
Honestly if it weren't for the diamonds I probably would have pitched it.
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Miffed22001
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this is a call with KK i think, or at least id argue you probably need to look to call with KK but with QQ? ugh i dont really wanna call this
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Fnord
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Easy call.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Fnord, I'd love for you to explain yourself at least for once because this seems like a fold to me.
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Alot of this is read dependant on his style of play and what kind of moves he might like to make. But that aside, I'd call it without information on him saying otherwise.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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arkana
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Fnord with your image its prob a call, for Renton I would think its a fold.
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Fnord
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WTF are you putting MP1 on?
My thoughts:
TT+ (discount AA because he sometimes 3-bets pre-flop)
9x/44 (discount because sometimes he'll smooth call the flop)
2 diamonds
sometimes other crap and pairs
Let's gamble. Money is only 75bets deep and lots of money went in pre-flop.
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jackvance
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You reraise preflop, lead out and he pushes? Without a read to tell me otherwise, I'd fold here..
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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Renton
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Originally Posted by arkana
Fnord with your image its prob a call, for Renton I would think its a fold.
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my preflop raise and threebetting frequency is likely the same, if not higher, than fnords.
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arkana
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Originally Posted by Renton
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Originally Posted by arkana
Fnord with your image its prob a call, for Renton I would think its a fold.
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my preflop raise and threebetting frequency is likely the same, if not higher, than fnords.
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Ok I assumed you are tight postflop, not sure if you gamble it up after the flop so if you do and your opponents notice it then I could see a call here. In my experience at 200NL I would be beat here most of the time if I called but thats with my image, shouldnt have made assumptions about yours.
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