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v2k
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10-19-2007, 07:27 AM
Post subject: 200NL - QQ
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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I don't know much about the villain, he's only raised 2 times in 54 hands before this one:
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Profiles and Stacks:
 17.1/5.3/0.9 (76) UTG ($200.00)
 26.7/2.7/1.0 (75) UTG+1 ($198.00)
 54.5/0.0/0.7 (11) MP1 ($175.75)
 28.6/17.9/3.0 (28) MP2 ($31.00)
17.5/6.7/2.2 (120) CO ($387.00)
15.8/4.4/4.5 (114) Hero ($197.00)
 27.3/6.1/2.4 (66) SB ($246.80)
 37.0/22.2/15.0 (54) BB ($207.11)
Pre-flop: ($3, 8 players) Hero is BTN  
UTG calls $2, 4 folds, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $30, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero calls $20
Flop:    ($64, 2 players)
SB bets $40, $40 to Hero ($167)?
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Ravageur
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meh, you could call and hope he slows down but I think shoving is bad. Folding is probably best 
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minSim
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I'm at least calling the flop and would have a very hard time folding a non A-K turn tbh. It depends very much on the villain, this could be one to fold it....but 66 hands isn't that big of a sample.
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Kagey
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I have a question. If a SB who is raising 6%, even over a small sample re-raises you (bearing in mind how tight you are playing), what is his range?
If we narrow this down to QQ+,AK and a little air, aren't we better folding pre-flop, since we're effectively set hunting without the odds.
Once you've called the flop and it's 3 unders, I'd feel obliged to call, but then you have the same problem if there's no A or K on the turn, and then we are pretty much committed at this point.
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Renton
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wow that converter is seriously fucking money
anyway, i'd probably fold it the first time. You could also call and fold any turn.
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bode
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that converter is sooooo sick.
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Jimmy Mac
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Originally Posted by bode
that converter is sooooo sick.
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I like it! Not sure about the little icons tho - presumably you can switch them off and just have the numbers.
Anyway, I'd probably call the flop and fold to another bet. Against known nits I just fold the flop, or even fold pre.
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archangel95
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Originally Posted by bode
that converter is sooooo sick.
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yeah I had to bookmark it. That is awesome.
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bode
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where does the converter get stats? I assume from PT, but how does it get the info?
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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archangel95
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Originally Posted by bode
where does the converter get stats? I assume from PT, but how does it get the info?
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It says it uploads the info from your poker tracker.
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v2k
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Yo, thanks for the props. The converter is a project I've been working on for the past 4 months. I've only just started to "get it out there".
The stats are indeed pulled from PT. In order to hook it up, you have to go through this guide: http://weaktight.com/pokertracker/
If anyone has any questions, or needs help getting it working, let me know.
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martindcx1e
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NICE CONVERTER OMG 
lol nice way to advertise it without spamming
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Originally Posted by Kagey
If we narrow this down to QQ+,AK and a little air, aren't we better folding pre-flop, since we're effectively set hunting without the odds.
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this is what i was thinking.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Renton
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folding preflop is wowbad.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by Renton
folding preflop is wowbad.
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i don't think so if you can put him on that narrow of a range.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Renton
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meh, its button vs blind. You have to give this a call. Even if his range is as narrow as AK QQ+, we still do reasonably postflop assuming villain plays pretty straightforwardly (which would be a fair assumption given his stats).
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Kagey
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meh, its button vs blind. You have to give this a call. Even if his range is as narrow as AK QQ+, we still do reasonably postflop assuming villain plays pretty straightforwardly (which would be a fair assumption given his stats).
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So when we get a flop with 3 unders, we have the best flop possible for us, not including set or some combo draws, why are we folding? Surely we try to call down as cheaply as possible.
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Miffed22001
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heres a hand a HUD wont help with.
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Renton
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Originally Posted by Kagey
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meh, its button vs blind. You have to give this a call. Even if his range is as narrow as AK QQ+, we still do reasonably postflop assuming villain plays pretty straightforwardly (which would be a fair assumption given his stats).
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So when we get a flop with 3 unders, we have the best flop possible for us, not including set or some combo draws, why are we folding? Surely we try to call down as cheaply as possible. |
a T34 flop or a J66 flop is >>>> a 754 flop. Villain is rarely going to continuation bet with AK AQ here, therefore our hand isn't doing very well against his range at all.
Like I said i don't really mind a call and fold the turn, but to be safe you can fold this with zero reads or history.
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Jack Sawyer
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nice convertor
support for ongame please
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