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pokerfan
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04-20-2008, 05:19 AM
Post subject: 200NL live ,AK top two in sick spot
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4-of-a-Kind
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the table was very loose passive, ppl called preflop raise like crazy and saw flop multiway all the time. My opponent is a loose passive old guy who was on a sick heater in the last few hands and played lots of crappy broadway cards, suited junk and two gappers oop .
stack size:
Hero: $230
Button(villain): $850
Hero had :As: :Ks:, raised to $15 UTG, UTG1 called, Mp3 called ,button(villain) called.
flop: :Ah: :Kh: 
hero bet $40, UTG1 folded, Mp3 folded , button called
turn: 
hero bet $50, button stood up quickly and said loudly: " how much you left?"
" this is my last hand and i put him all-in"
hero ? ?
Given good pot odds, i was really sick in the heat moment...
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Deanglow
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Your flop bet is bad and your turn bet is atrocious. As played call; I never fold top two live.
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pokerfan
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lol, i should've bet much more on the turn but changed my mind after seeing his body language and an exciting smile on the face  Verbal tells was quite obvious, dean.
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Your flop bet is bad and your turn bet is atrocious. As played call; I never fold top two live.
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Fnord
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You really should be jamming pots for closer to the size of the pot against this line-up to compensate for all the times you need to give-up on air. The turn bet really depends on what I think of this guy. I suppose I like it as a blocker, but you're just so close to commitment...
At least $50 on the flop (probably closer to full pot at $60) and you know that that point the rest is probably going in.
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hero bet $50, button stood up quickly and said loudly: " how much you left?" " this is my last hand and i put him all-in"
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You're so fucked unless you think he's putting on a show. That "My Last Hand" part really makes me think he's trying to sell you on a call.
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Fnord
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After thinking about this for a minute, unless he's absurdly straight forward strong = strong on your read, this is a call.
Is he showing soooooooooo much strength because he just can't contain himself at the table or is it because he's puffing himself up for a really terrible acting job? I'd really have to see how he's been playing to tell.
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pokerfan
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he is not tricky , but a straightforward zero level thinking passive donk.
hmmm, he really left casino after this hand.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
After thinking about this for a minute, unless he's absurdly straight forward strong = strong on your read, this is a call.
Is he showing soooooooooo much strength because he just can't contain himself at the table or is it because he's puffing himself up for a really terrible acting job? I'd really have to see how he's been playing to tell.
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Fnord
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he is not tricky , but a straightforward zero level thinking passive donk.
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hmmm, he really left casino after this hand.
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After you spiked a king on the river?
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pokerfan
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i folded and then he left the table quietly. In live games, i really fold lots of good hands vs these types of honest donks cuz you know they have you beat the majority of the time regardless of whether you are committed or not.
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hmmm, he really left casino after this hand.
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After you spiked a king on the river? |
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Muzzard
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i folded and then he left the table quietly. In live games, i really fold lots of good hands vs these types of honest donks cuz you know they have you beat the majority of the time regardless of whether you are committed or not.
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hmmm, he really left casino after this hand.
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After you spiked a king on the river? |
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I wish you would write replies below the quote!
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d0zer
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I wish you would write replies below the quote!
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pokerfan's from eastern canada, and much like the differences between how english and hebrew are read in different directions, eastern hosers read bottom to up, instead of top to bottom.
It's an unfortunate situation the federal government has spent years in vain trying to correct...
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pokerfan
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english is not my first language even though i'm surely a canadian citizen 
i had an extremely bad night this weekend at caisno and lost my AK twice in a row at the same table.
In that hand, 5 limpers, i raised up to $25 with AK from big blind and got fucking 2 callers.
K 8 2 rainbow on the flop, so i checked and to my surprise, one of donks asked me " how much i left " and put me all-in with 80BB deep. No doubt I insta called and he flipped over freakin 88.
what else can i do but stack off there?
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I wish you would write replies below the quote!
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pokerfan's from eastern canada, and much like the differences between how english and hebrew are read in different directions, eastern hosers read bottom to up, instead of top to bottom.
It's an unfortunate situation the federal government has spent years in vain trying to correct... |
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
K 8 2 rainbow on the flop, so i checked and to my surprise, one of donks asked me " how much i left " and put me all-in with 80BB deep. No doubt I insta called and he flipped over freakin 88.
what else can i do but stack off there? |
Read his soul and check/fold? Short of that, you bet the flop and stack off there because that's the best way to play the hand.
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pokerfan
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I hardly seem to get paid off cuz this flop misses their calling ranges( small pockets, suited connectors and other junk). Also, checking might induce a bluff from the aggressive opponent who i know would bet into weakness most of the time.The guy is aggressive enough that i cant really put him on having any decent hand on this friendly flop.
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
K 8 2 rainbow on the flop, so i checked and to my surprise, one of donks asked me " how much i left " and put me all-in with 80BB deep. No doubt I insta called and he flipped over freakin 88.
what else can i do but stack off there? |
Read his soul and check/fold? Short of that, you bet the flop and stack off there because that's the best way to play the hand. |
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