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Old 06-09-2006, 03:03 AM     Post subject: 200nl KJs #1 (permalink)  
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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, June 08, 22:54:45 ET 2006
Table Magic Sail (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 3: ESPOLAX ( $884.59 )
Seat 4: joshuadalton ( $197.06 )
Seat 10: ToiletSpider ( $197 )
Seat 8: Beelzeboz0 ( $221.40 )
Seat 2: salimdeaibes ( $214.80 )
Seat 7: freebait ( $188 )
Seat 5: Xaiyellowfev ( $0 )
Seat 6: thestylenew ( $320 )
Seat 9: Bdog145 ( $29 )
salimdeaibes posts small blind [$1].
ESPOLAX posts big blind [$2].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Beelzeboz0 [ Kh Jh ]

Xaiyellowfev has left the table.
joshuadalton folds.
thestylenew folds.
freebait folds.
Beelzeboz0 raises [$7].
Bdog145 folds.
ToiletSpider folds.
walfredo17 has joined the table.
salimdeaibes calls [$6].
ESPOLAX folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 2h, 4h ]

salimdeaibes checks.
Beelzeboz0 bets [$11].
salimdeaibes calls [$11].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]

salimdeaibes checks.
Beelzeboz0 checks.

** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]

salimdeaibes bets [$35].
Beelzeboz0 calls [$35].
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Old 06-09-2006, 03:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I bet turn;check call river is fine.His river bet seems more of a steal since you checked the turn on an Ace high flop;he prob sensed some weakness.
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Old 06-09-2006, 03:52 AM #3 (permalink)  
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If you are checking the turn I think you need to call a bet on a nonheart river, I think your line is fine.
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Old 06-09-2006, 03:55 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 i figured it was the line that got the most value out of a pocket pair, but the least risk in case he has an A.

I think the only weak point to this play is that he see a free river with his draw. But I don't see the need to defend a hand that I am not even confident is ahead, so I don't see anything good about betting the turn here.
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Old 06-09-2006, 04:01 AM #5 (permalink)  
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To be honest you're not too far behind;with a pair on the turn you have even more outs to go with your Flush Draw.
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Old 06-09-2006, 04:10 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 True, but I'd rather see a free river with my draw (in case he has an ace) and pick off bluffs on the river from hands that would have folded to my turn bet.

Remember, we're up against a bad lagg, so he's betting ANY river here regardless of whats in his hand.
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Old 06-10-2006, 12:09 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 06-10-2006, 12:52 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I play it the same.
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Old 06-10-2006, 12:58 AM #9 (permalink)  
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i figured it was the line that got the most value out of a pocket pair, but the least risk in case he has an A.

I think the only weak point to this play is that he see a free river with his draw. But I don't see the need to defend a hand that I am not even confident is ahead, so I don't see anything good about betting the turn here.
what draw would we be afraid of anyway?

Also, on the river, I'm not saying we shouldn't call or we shouldn't fold. But don't kid yourself into thinking he's value betting a worse hand here, meaning we only beat a bluff. If you think he bluffs here more then 1/3 times, call. Otherwise, fold.

I'm guessing one of his two hole cards was an ace.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:01 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 no he had a pair of sevens
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:03 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I'm guessing one of his two hole cards was an ace.
His bet size suggests he's blowing us off the pot and the regulars in this game don't think deep enough to avoid information leakage.
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I'm guessing one of his two hole cards was an ace.
His bet size suggests he's blowing us off the pot and the regulars in this game don't think deep enough to avoid information leakage.
I won't argue this.

Sometimes I call here, sometimes I fold. Depends how often I think I'm good in this particular hand. It seems like regulars in the games I play know I make this call TOO much to be honest, so if I think that's the case, I'm much more apt to fold...

Given the right circumstances I'd consider a raise.
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If what I've heard about Ed's book is accurate, expect to see more floating in online games in the comming months.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:21 AM #14 (permalink)  
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