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d0zer
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06-17-2008, 03:01 AM
Post subject: 200NL: junk vs d0zerclone
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Over 250 hands, this villain is a splitting image of myself.
Runs 18/14/3 over 250 hands. 50% attempt to steal.
The interesting stat here is that I've got him c/ring flop 25% of the time, which is damn high. I figure he's pulling a few c/r bluffs vs villains who are positionally aware, and c-bet a lot (like me). So I countered.
Anyone like?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP1 ($384.45)
MP2 ($419.70)
Hero ($319)
CO ($202)
Button ($201.30)
SB ($74.80)
BB ($255.95)
UTG ($200)
UTG+1 ($200)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T , 9 .
4 folds, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, BB calls $6.
Flop: ($17) 2, K , 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $38, Hero calls $26.
Turn: ($93) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $50
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PapalRage
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would he expect you to 3 bet AK on this flop looking to get it in? im not really sure what you are trying to represent. you had looks most like a flush draw i guess, but i would expect villain to call lighter here. i think if you want to play back at him you should 3 bet the flop, or at least play back when you have a little equity (like AQ).
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You'd probably want to get it in on the flop with all ur nut hands including AK, by calling the 2bet and sticking out this 1/2pot turn bet its not really repping anything half decent IMO.
If you want to counter just 3b flop. I don't really see the merit in bluffing this guy in a sport where I think really you have no clue what he has - you just fancied playing back.
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Seabass
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I do this myself sometimes, so obv I like it if your read and image support it.
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Fnord
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I think a 3-bet on the flop works better because he will often follow through with his bluffs.
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d0zer
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I figured he was doing this with air enough of the time to make this play profitable. In the event that he's actually got something, he'll likely fire again on the turn, so I used my position to save some money when he's serious.
When I try this bluff, if someone calls my 3-bet I almost always have to give them credit for something and shutdown. Especially someone with taggy stats. Maybe that's a mistake, but who says he THAT good that he won't make that mistake?
I see enough people playing a strong king like in my position for 'pot control'. Sure they should probably be charging, but it's a common enough mistake for this line to believably rep a king. It's a fairly big assumption that he's thinking I would have charged the flop with a big K.
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BankItDrew
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3 betting a habitual check raiser is better. You won't be super happy about any turn card improving your hand, while a turn card could slow yourself down (aces, clubs etc.)
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d0zer
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
3 betting a habitual check raiser is better. You won't be super happy about any turn card improving your hand, while a turn card could slow yourself down (aces, clubs etc.)
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I'm not really worried about any turn card falling cause I stopped playing my cards at the flop. Arguably preflop. A club would be nice so I can more credibly rep a solid hand here.
Why does everyone like a 3-bet on the flop here? To shut him out from making another bluff? Cause it seems stronger and may fold out more hands than my line would?
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BankItDrew
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Originally Posted by d0zer
A club would be nice so I can more credibly rep a solid hand here.
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You have a solid hand. Why do you want to turn it into a bluff?
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d0zer
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
Quote:
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Originally Posted by d0zer
A club would be nice so I can more credibly rep a solid hand here.
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You have a solid hand. Why do you want to turn it into a bluff? |
I did get pretty excited when I turned an open ended straight draw-draw.
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