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Renton
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07-16-2006, 10:40 AM
Post subject: 200nl AK vs fish.
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Straight Flush
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Villain is 29/2.5 and passive but has high river aggression. My image is 17/11 tag.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($321.60)
SB ($199.20)
BB ($150.76)
Hero ($262.95)
UTG+1 ($213.65)
MP1 ($266)
MP2 ($201.22)
CO ($191)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , A . SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $7, UTG+1 calls $7, 6 folds.
Flop: ($17) K, 9 , 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $11, UTG+1 calls $11.
Turn: ($39) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $27, UTG+1 calls $27.
River: ($93) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $60, UTG+1 raises to $120, Hero calls $60.
Final Pot: $333
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midas06
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standard?
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Miffed22001
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i wouldnt have called the minraise river i dont think, rest is standard.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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I am not even good one in 4.5 times on this river?
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Miffed22001
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
I am not even good one in 4.5 times on this river?
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probably but the donkey draw got their and what would he call you down with here that you beat?
Add to that id have bet 40-50 here and then called the miniraise if it came. I thought 2/3rds was a lot here esp with the potentially dangerous river card
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bdawg56kg
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This looks fine. I might bet more on the river though.
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zaaaaaak
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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78 seems likely.
I would check/call this river card hoping he's betting a weak king or trash.
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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Rockymv
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by zaaaaaak
I would check/call this river card hoping he's betting a weak king or trash.
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yeah, why not c/c the river? especially with his high river aggression. i mean do you really think a weaker king or busted draw is calling the river?
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ensign_lee
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I'm sorry ruckymvv, but I would never check/call this river. That is not good advice at 200NL.
If the opponent is a fish and is beaten, he will simply not bet, and you will have lost a lot of value.
I think this got played fine. Calling the raise is something you're just going to have to do, because honestly, I think you're good every 4.5x, like you said.
Sucks that he raised though. Fish are supposed to call, and then lose.
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bdawg56kg
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
yeah, why not c/c the river?
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Because his range consists of a lot of weaker made hands that will pay off a bet but not necessarily bet if checked to. Sure he could have the nuts, but that's a very small portion of his range.
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
i mean do you really think a weaker king or busted draw is calling the river?
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Yes, he is a fish. This is how we make money.
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Staresy
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Forgive my ignorance here, but if he has high river aggression and our hero checks to him, aren't we just inviting him to make a bet that we would struggle to call?
How much are we calling on a c/c (hypothetically)?
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midas06
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the problem with aggression ratings is that it takes longer for it to converge than vpip/pfr, and also you may not have seen the villain play more than a few times on each street
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arkana
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Check call or check fold that river unless he is a super donk.
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