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08-28-2007, 05:53 AM Post subject: 200nl AK hand ran into big trouble???

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villian was a loose player, 75/22/1.2 over 36 hands.
however, i still figured my line was a little bit too weak though in early streets.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($311)
MP2 ($247.55)
MP3 ($193)
CO ($191)
Button ($32)
SB ($193)
BB ($105.20)
UTG ($294.50)
UTG+1 ($238.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K

, A

.
UTG calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, MP3 calls $7, 2 folds, SB calls $6, 1 fold, UTG calls $5.

Flop: ($30) 3

, 3

, K

(4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $20, MP3 folds, SB folds, UTG raises to $52, Hero calls $32.

Turn: ($134) 4

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks. ( [b] should i make big value bet here?)

River: ($134) A

(2 players)
UTG bets $56, Hero ???

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Dashi

08-28-2007, 07:15 AM

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I would have raised more, 3.5x + 1 per limper, in this case $9. Hopefully that would have reduced the field. This contributed to a chain of events that allowed your villain to call with 5 to 1 odds.

Post-flop your value bet was good, but you have to assume your beat with the c/r The reads you had on him and the odds he had pre-flop all make 43s a completely reasonable holding. His aggression factor is Everything points to you being beat at this point.

Turn, based on previous action, I would make a large 3/4 psb, at this point I'd just want him to go away, and trying to represent A3 is prolly the best plan.

River - your reads don't show high aggression and he has been showing pure strength post-flop. I fold. Way too many hands have you beat, and to believe he isn't holding 3x, or any two hearts is too much. However if you do want to put more money into the pot, push all-in. Decent chance that if he is observant and does have you beat with trips or a small flush he'll fold. Any hand that you will beat by calling, will fold to an All-In

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08-28-2007, 02:58 PM

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I strongly disagree with the above post. I think you have to at least call the flop, and, given turn action, bet huge. If he double check raises (wtf?) then I guess fold. He probably has a flush draw and why the hell would he lay down trips or a low flush to a river raise? I think you have to fold this river as played.

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08-28-2007, 05:56 PM

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ya dashi i think you are a bit off man. what hand do you put utg on? the only 3 i can see him playing is A3s. as dean said...why the F would a flush or trips fold on the river?

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08-28-2007, 09:24 PM

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How can you restrict any 3 holding to A3? He has shoved money in that pot, 27 out of the last 36 times. He had amazing pot odds pre-flop to call with any suited hand connecting or not.

I would have got out at the flop, so it's hard for me to make an objective opinion for the Turn and River. Had I been playing this I would push/fold on the river. with a STRONG inclination to fold.

If he had only trips I can't see him calling a push, too may ways to be beat. A low flush there is a small chance he'd fold, *IF* he didn't hold the 3h. I would assume he could consider 3h with QJTh fits the post-flop play. Not to mention that many other holdings have him beat with a FH. This prolly stems from my assumption that in the absence of better data, more often than not bets mean exactly what they are trying to represent.

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08-29-2007, 03:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dashi

How can you restrict any 3 holding to A3? He has shoved money in that pot, 27 out of the last 36 times. He had amazing pot odds pre-flop to call with any suited hand connecting or not.

hey may be a bit loose but it's only 36 hands.

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Originally Posted by Dashi

If he had only trips I can't see him calling a push

ya that much is probably true although i highly doubt he folds a flush here.

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