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mxiu
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08-03-2008, 06:19 AM
Post subject: 200 NL AA live@casino
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Full House
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SB has about 400'ish, BB has about 200, hero covers both
Hero raises AsAh UTG to $15, gets SB and BB to call.
SB seems somewhat decent, and BB is Bankitdrew.
Flop: Ks Js 2h
SB bets 20, BB calls, Hero raises to 60, SB calls, BB calls.
Turn: 9h
SB bets 60, BB calls (And makes it somewhat obvious he's on a draw), Hero calls
River: Ac
SB bets 60, BB folds, Hero?
Comments on all streets appreciated.
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Fnord
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Raise bigger on the flop if you must raise. I would just call. It's a pretty drawy board and there figure to be like twenty collective outs against you. Making a small raise puts you in commitment limbo.
River is a call. If SB doesn't totally suck balls he's repping some kind of improvement on the turn. With a read I might value raise or ship it in. His line really does look like he sucks donkey balls and you really should be able to read him better.
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mxiu
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What do you think of the turn call?
River is always a call? We are holding the second nuts at this point, I was wondering if this should've been a snap raise since we're not worried about anything but QT...
I agree with the flop, 80 seems better.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by mxiu
What do you think of the turn call?
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You fucked up the hand already on the flop. Your thought process needs to get past "I have good hand, I make good handish raise." You need to think about commitment here when there is $400ish behind. With $200ish behind we can raise to like $80 and ship the rest in on most turns.
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Originally Posted by mxiu
River is always a call? We are holding the second nuts at this point, I was wondering if this should've been a snap raise since we're not worried about anything but QT...
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His turn donk is one of a few things
o One pair that doesn't want to give a free card.
o Some hand that improved on the turn QT/K9/J9 There are more combinations of QT than the other hands.
How likely is it he donks the turn without improvement? Also he seems to really really want a call.
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Originally Posted by mxiu
I agree with the flop, 80 seems better.
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$45 in the pot, $40 in calls, your call would make it $115 total minus the drop. A pot sized raise is $130.
I would raise like $100 to $120ish and ship the rest in on most turns if I decided to commit on the flop. Then kindly thank Drew for his monies when he tanks. More likely I would just call and trust my ability to read body language and the turn action.
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pokerfan
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i probably raise this on the river cuz his line was more leaning towards TPGK stuff IMO. Also, you gotta pop up to at least $100 on the flop if you want to build a big pot.
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BankItDrew
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I had fwiw
 
sb played this hand horribly postflop imo
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mxiu
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Hero ends up calling and villain flips over KJh for a monster on the flop and turn. Meh.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by mxiu
Hero ends up calling and villain flips over KJh for a monster on the flop and turn. Meh.
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Consider that if the hands are reversed all the money is going into the pot.
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mxiu
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Oh god I really need to raise this river for value.
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Fnord
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Oh god I really need to raise this river for value.
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Huh? You kept all the money out of the pot when you had that sick, "my hand is good, but I think I'm behind" feeling. I love players that let me dictate pot size.
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