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Old 07-10-2006, 07:30 AM     Post subject: 2 Ugly looking 50nl AK hands #1 (permalink)  
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Starting to maybe get more into ring...wanted to know how you guys felt about these hands. [sorry i cant find a paradise convertor] Assume I have no reads

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Paradise Poker Game #1580453531 - (blinds $0.25/$0.50) No Limit Texas
Hold'em - 2006/07/09-21:20:54.9 (CST)
Table "Cayo Coco" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: OhYoko ($48.40 in chips)
Seat 2: lansky37 ($49.00 in chips)
Seat 3: khunt74 ($45.85 in chips)
Seat 4: sumptuous1 ($43.00 in chips)
Seat 6: fjuanl ($51.25 in chips)
Seat 7: mickben1 ($67.80 in chips)
Seat 9: fanmail ($32.50 in chips)
Seat 10: spuddy1943 ($25.20 in chips)
lansky37: Post Small Blind ($0.25)
khunt74 : Post Big Blind ($0.50)
Dealing...
Dealt to fjuanl [ Kh ]
Dealt to fjuanl [ As ]
sumptuous1: Call ($0.50)
fjuanl : Raise ($2.50)
mickben1: Fold
fanmail : Fold
spuddy1943: Raise ($8)
OhYoko : Fold
lansky37: Fold
khunt74 : Fold
sumptuous1: Fold
fjuanl : Fold
spuddy1943: Winner -- doesn't show cards
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $6.25 | Rake: $0
OhYoko didn't bet (folded)
lansky37 lost $0.25 (folded)
khunt74 lost $0.50 (folded)
sumptuous1 lost $0.50 (folded)
fjuanl lost $2.50 (folded) [ Kh As ]
mickben1 didn't bet (folded)
fanmail didn't bet (folded)
spuddy1943 bet $8, collected $11.75, net +$3.75

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Paradise Poker Game #1580509522 - (blinds $0.25/$0.50) No Limit Texas
Hold'em - 2006/07/09-21:49:12.8 (CST)
Table "Aranuka" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: PokerPuttz ($44.00 in chips)
Seat 2: RLGoons ($38.00 in chips)
Seat 3: Burns12 ($64.80 in chips)
Seat 4: GIMUK ($10.75 in chips)
Seat 5: lansky37 ($62.65 in chips)
Seat 6: fjuanl ($55.95 in chips)
Seat 7: mcstacks ($30.15 in chips)
Seat 8: OhYoko ($78.95 in chips)
Seat 9: M_J_P_27 ($59.30 in chips)
Seat 10: BigTomCali ($81.70 in chips)
RLGoons : Post Small Blind ($0.25)
Burns12 : Post Big Blind ($0.50)
Dealing...
Dealt to fjuanl [ Ah ]
Dealt to fjuanl [ Ks ]
GIMUK : Call ($0.50)
lansky37: Fold
fjuanl : Raise ($2.50)
mcstacks: Fold
OhYoko : Fold
M_J_P_27: Fold
BigTomCali: Raise ($4.50)
PokerPuttz: Fold
RLGoons : Fold
Burns12 : Fold
GIMUK : Fold
fjuanl : Call ($2)
*** FLOP *** : [ Jc As Jh ]
fjuanl : Check
BigTomCali: Bet ($5.50)
fjuanl : Call ($5.50)
*** TURN *** : [ Jc As Jh ] [ Qd ]
fjuanl : Check
BigTomCali: Bet ($6)
fjuanl : Fold
BigTomCali: Winner -- doesn't show cards
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $20.25 | Rake: $1
Board: [ Jc As Jh Qd ]
PokerPuttz didn't bet (folded)
RLGoons lost $0.25 (folded)
Burns12 lost $0.50 (folded)
GIMUK lost $0.50 (folded)
lansky37 didn't bet (folded)
fjuanl lost $10 (folded) [ Ah Ks ] (two pair, aces and jacks)
mcstacks didn't bet (folded)
OhYoko didn't bet (folded)
M_J_P_27 didn't bet (folded)
BigTomCali bet $16, collected $26.25, net +$10.25
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Old 07-10-2006, 07:36 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Weak sauce. First hand I call and reevaluate on flop. 2nd hand you need to bet flop, or go for a c/r. If you're folding that river, fold the flop. But I advocate betting both.
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hand 1 is a tricky spot cause he's so short. I think push/fold preflop.

hand 2 bet flop. and, i'm not folding to his weiner bet on the turn either.
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i actually thought he was drawing to 2 outs on the flop...but he hit one on the turn
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hand 1: i call the reraise. with his stack size, he could very well have a med. PP 88-JJ.

hand 2: no way im folding to a <1/3 pot bet. reraise to $15
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Old 07-10-2006, 03:02 PM #6 (permalink)  
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1) At Paradise 50NL, absent any reads saying the guy's a non-idiot, I'd probably shove with AK against a shortstack. People do that shit there with PPs down to 66 and all other kinds of Ax.

2) Bet flop
 
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Hand 2: Think about the range of hands villian reraises with. In all likelihood that was a great flop for you. Bet it hard. As played, there's no way I'm folding that turn. You've most likely got the best hand, and you've got the gutshot as well.
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Old 07-10-2006, 04:50 PM #8 (permalink)  
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1) Without any reads I push over his re-raise. If he's super-tight (like a few shortstacks I know on Party) I probably fold here.

2) Lead the flop. If he raises your lead then you can slow down. I think you're good here though.
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Old 07-10-2006, 05:52 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 - I fold the re-raise without a read as you did
Hand 2- Bet or Check Raise the Flop
(In this case you just called & his small turn bet indicates weakness,
I don't fold here.)
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:53 AM #10 (permalink)  
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what hands bet the turn that i beat? [that re-raise preflop]
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:01 AM #11 (permalink)  
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hand1.

i have notes saying opp is a bit fishy but thats on a small sample. I might push and gambOOl here it depends if my notes are right.

Hand2.
Not sure on this, opp unknown even to me. Id have bet this flop as played but we only beat KK or we're splitting by the turn. I think your turn play reflects how you played the flop but id have bet the flop knowing i could hard hit the turn and fold to real strength if i think too many preflop reraise hands have me smoked on the turn.
btw, ive seen AJ turned over here too so so much for reads...
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