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Old 11-18-2008, 01:25 AM     Post subject: 2 tough rivers imo 400NL #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 Villain is a good 14/12, no real history. I'm 12/9. My hand is kind of face up here

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MP2 ($117.70)
CO ($410.10)
Button ($388)
SB ($402)
Hero (BB) ($400)
UTG ($566.70)
UTG+1 ($416.15)
MP1 ($476.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 7
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $12, MP1 calls $12, 1 fold, CO calls $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($50) 7, 4, Q (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($50) 7 (4 players)
Hero bets $32, 1 fold, MP1 calls $32, 1 fold

River: ($114) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $60, MP1 raises to $160, Hero

Hand 2 Villain is another good 14/12 and knows I can vbet kind of thin here. I've seen him do some questionable things but nothing to nutty

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SB ($424.10)
Hero (BB) ($400)
UTG ($406)
UTG+1 ($418.90)
MP1 ($567.40)
MP2 ($400)
CO ($400)
Button ($302.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
UTG raises to $12, 4 folds, Button calls $12, 1 fold, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($38) 8, 8, 3 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $24, 1 fold, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($86) J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($86) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $52, UTG raises to $168, Hero
 
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:49 AM #2 (permalink)  
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eww these make so little sense
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:11 AM #3 (permalink)  
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i hate the flop play on both hands and i could easily be wrong

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Old 11-18-2008, 02:54 AM #4 (permalink)  
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i hate the flop play on both hands and i could easily be wrong
Hand 2 is debatable, and not the way I always play it, but why would I lead hand 1...
 
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:00 AM #5 (permalink)  
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flop seems fine/standard/optimal for both and not even debatable for 1. I'm guessing you thought he led the flop or something.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:28 AM #6 (permalink)  
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hand 1: 55. Play is standard imo on your end if you end up folding river.

hand 2: two black jacks. Also fine play by you here except I am calling expecting to see a wiffed AK....maybe 33


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Old 11-18-2008, 03:33 AM #7 (permalink)  
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flop seems fine/standard/optimal for both and not even debatable for 1. I'm guessing you thought he led the flop or something.
I really want to lead hand 1, beat the shit out of me and my ideas because I know you love being right! And does the hand the ferocity with which you beat me decrease if its 3 people or HU?

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Old 11-18-2008, 03:52 AM #8 (permalink)  
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i guess i dont hate it. u have some equity and probably a profitable barreling opportunity if u can get the PFR out of the way. It just seems a bit too thin given that there are 4 players in the pot. In multiway pots in full ring games i feel like someone has at least toppest pair constantly.
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:47 PM #9 (permalink)  
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oh idunno i lead oop on boards like this all the time and i'm pretty sure it's profitable
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