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freechus9

02-24-2006, 10:30 PM Post subject: 2 more hand histories for review..

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First of all, thanks to everyone who replied to my previous post. It helped SO MUCH! I'm in debt to you all.. Anyways, one to the HHs..

This one I was contemplating c-betting the turn since I had a pretty strong draw, but what do you guys think?

** Game ID 698709068 starting - 2006-02-24 18:12:04
** Gleem Beam [Hold 'em] (0.05|0.10 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- anitaas sitting in seat 1 with $4.95
- benkahuna sitting in seat 2 with $0.65
- Samuel_K sitting in seat 3 with $11.35
- Matisse001 sitting in seat 4 with $11.37
- zhangff sitting in seat 5 with $6.20
- catcanblue sitting in seat 6 with $10.25
- freechus9 sitting in seat 7 with $10.65
- travkingen sitting in seat 8 with $12.25
- Canuck82 sitting in seat 9 with $17.15
- ARMPIT2005 sitting in seat 10 with $6.40 [Dealer]

anitaas posted the small blind - $0.05
benkahuna posted the big blind - $0.10
** Dealing card to freechus9: Ace of Clubs, King of Clubs
Samuel_K called - $0.10
Matisse001 called - $0.10
zhangff folded
catcanblue folded
freechus9 raised - $0.60
travkingen folded
Canuck82 folded
ARMPIT2005 called - $0.60
anitaas folded
benkahuna folded
Samuel_K called - $0.60
Matisse001 folded

** Dealing the flop: 10 of Hearts, 3 of Clubs, 5 of Clubs
Samuel_K checked
freechus9 bet - $1.50
ARMPIT2005 folded
Samuel_K called - $1.50

** Dealing the turn: 2 of Spades
Samuel_K checked
freechus9...

This next one is another one of those tricky spots that I find myself getting into. Should I have just not called the flop bet? And I figure the river raise is so small compared to the pot; but I don't know if I am beat more times than I win if I call..

** Game ID 698697726 starting - 2006-02-24 18:04:09
** Fed Down [Hold 'em] (0.05|0.10 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- freechus9 sitting in seat 1 with $8.45
- PLZPLZME sitting in seat 2 with $5.05
- jdmiller sitting in seat 3 with $9.25
- Canuck82 sitting in seat 4 with $11.75
- Slider_06 sitting in seat 5 with $8.80
- Ticke59 sitting in seat 6 with $9.60
- lyndarnio sitting in seat 7 with $13.60
- Ouird sitting in seat 8 with $3.95
- pokerjunkie7 sitting in seat 9 with $2.60 [Dealer]
- gigi_poka sitting in seat 10 with $9.65

gigi_poka posted the small blind - $0.05
freechus9 posted the big blind - $0.10
** Dealing card to freechus9: Jack of Diamonds, 5 of Hearts
PLZPLZME folded
jdmiller folded
Canuck82 called - $0.10
Slider_06 folded
Ticke59 called - $0.10
lyndarnio folded
Ouird folded
pokerjunkie7 called - $0.10
gigi_poka called - $0.10
freechus9 checked

** Dealing the flop: Queen of Clubs, 10 of Clubs, 9 of Hearts
gigi_poka checked
freechus9 checked
Canuck82 bet - $0.20
Ticke59 called - $0.20
pokerjunkie7 called - $0.20
gigi_poka called - $0.20
freechus9 called - $0.20

** Dealing the turn: 9 of Diamonds
gigi_poka checked
freechus9 checked
Canuck82 checked
Ticke59 checked
pokerjunkie7 checked

** Dealing the river: King of Clubs
gigi_poka checked
freechus9 bet - $1.00
Canuck82 called - $1.00
Ticke59 called - $1.00
pokerjunkie7 went all-in - $2.30
gigi_poka folded
freechus9...

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dj newman

02-24-2006, 10:56 PM

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In hand #1

You look to have 9 outs (flush), 3 outs (low straight) and possible 6 outs (for a higher pair) - that gives you 12 outs for sure and maybe as many as 18...depending on the player you are against. The pot has $4.95 on the turn and you have $8.55 left - your opponent has you covered. Your opponent still doesn't know what you have - and he could lay down top pair with a raise from you. I think you have to raise here - I would say pot....but then that is over half your stack - so maybe All In is right here...I don't think you slow down.

Hand #2
You have to call here...he might have you beat with the Full House, but I would at least call here since I don't think he has the higher straight (probably would have raised preflop) and he could have a J, two pair or trips. An interesting situation has happened though - the two people who called you certainly don't have you beat (maybe have a J for the split)....you could come over the top to $3.60 and try and win a sidepot to cover the losses if the shortstack has you beat. I can't imagine canuck or ticke having the higher straight or full house...they surely would have reraised.

Irisheyes

02-24-2006, 11:03 PM

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1) He's offering you a free card to beat him, be a nice guy and take it.

2) Call

midas06

02-24-2006, 11:52 PM

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Um... In 2 the board has gone 3 to a flush and the board is paired. I don't think you should bet out so much here. Just pray for a free/cheap showdown.

Vrax

02-25-2006, 01:17 AM

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#1. The pot is quite fat, you have flushdraw+overs, check/raise all-In if someone calls then so be it, you are favourite against most hands and if someone has a monster then well 30% insurance policy.

#2. This is soo crappy second-best potential draw, I'd muck it on flop...

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Fnord

02-25-2006, 01:27 AM

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The river in hand 2 is an easy check and think about a call. Probably safe just to dump the turkey on the flop.

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dj newman

02-25-2006, 01:56 AM

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I don't know what I was looking at....didn't see the third club on the river....definately check and maybe call on the river on Hand #2.

DaHorror

02-25-2006, 05:23 AM

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Hand 1 - I tend to be a bit on the weak side here - but you paid for a free card on the flop and were successful in chasing off the guy with position on you - free card city - if you don't improve, you lost $2.10, no biggie - or you win if he was chasing a weaker flush and didn't pair up. I hope for the latter and that if we both make a flush he's paying me well. If I hit an A or K and he checks I can bet/fold to unreasonable reraise, or just call a river bet.

Hand 2 - woops board paired on the turn and flush showed up - check/fold most likely with 4 people still in the hand. Not really worried about the FH here or even being outstraighted, but the flush is a different matter.

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02-25-2006, 04:26 PM

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you have no implied odds on the first hands draw, just fold the flop, you'll lose money in the long run by getting in the situation you got into.

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