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Old 12-16-2005, 09:50 PM     Post subject: 2 Hands for Analysis #1 (permalink)  
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BB ($53.50)
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MP1 ($25)
Hero ($46.35)
MP3 ($14.35)
CO ($9.40)
Button ($9.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, MP3 calls $0.75, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4.10) :Td:, , :Qc: (3 players)
Hero bets $2, MP3 calls $2, Button folds.

Turn: ($8.10) (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP3 raises $7.10 to $11.10 and is all-in. Hero ???

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with :Jd:, :Jh:.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.50) :Ks:, :Js:, :Qs: (3 players)
SB bets $2.5, Hero calls $2.50, Button raises to $8.5, SB calls $6, Hero ???.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:
If the money was deeper I would just dump this one pre-flop. As played I would c/r myself nice and pot-struck on the flop because that's where I want to get in all of the money. Leading out for $2 into passive short stackes won't get the money in with the best hand often enough.

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Money nowhere near deep enough to not get it all-in on the flop.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:59 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 2:

Flat calling the flop bet is a HUGE mistake.

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I like a push when he bets into you. Perfect time for the fake semi-bluff.
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Hand 2:

Flat calling the flop bet is a HUGE mistake.
Can you explain?


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I like a push when he bets into you. Perfect time for the fake semi-bluff.
Raise ~$15 in a $5 pot? If I had a deeper stack what would your play be?
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Hand 2:

Flat calling the flop bet is a HUGE mistake.
Can you explain?
I can try.

Number one, you get no information by flat calling.

Number two, you make it easy for anyone who bets a flush draw, you don't reraise.

Third, by just flat calling you are effectively setting yourself up for the reraise which puts you in a situation where you have a hard choice.

You also make it easy for anyone on a straight draw.

You have two opponents. The chance that someone has actually flopped a straight or flush is low. The most probable hands are straight/flush draws with a pair.

The person raising will in many cases have something like QA or KA with flush draw.

The problem with this flop is that there are not many cards that can come that won't make the board VERY hard to play. Throw in a ten. Throw in an ace. Throw in a nine. Throw in a spade. That's more than an open ended straight flush outer.

You are HEAVILY favored to be the one to actually have the best hand on this flop. It is also highly probable that one or another have a quality draw. IF someone has made the flush you are 30%+ to beat it with FH.

Thus you should push. Hard.

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Oh and hand number one.

At the turn as it's played there is more than enough money in the pot to make a call of the all-in correct.

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