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Old 11-19-2007, 10:37 AM     Post subject: 2 big pair shoves #1 (permalink)  
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do you like these shoves or are they bad? Am I losing a lot of value by shoving in these spots/asking for trouble or is it good play?

Hand 1. First guy was loose passive.

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UTG+1 ($16.25)
Hero ($11.10)
MP2 ($11.30)
MP3 ($12.45)
CO ($4.90)
Button ($4)
SB ($7.45)
BB ($2.25)
UTG ($5.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K.
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.5, 5 folds, UTG calls $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.65) 7, 5, 9 (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2.

Turn: ($7.65) J (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7.6 (All-In)




Hand 2. The second shove his 3bet preflop looked to me like FPS which I thought he tended to do. He was a horribly bad player imo.

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UTG ($5.20)
Hero ($9.15)
MP1 ($11.85)
MP2 ($11.20)
CO ($1.60)
Button ($12.90)
SB ($1.55)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, Button raises to $1.6, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.20.

Flop: ($3.35) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($7.35) (2 players)
Hero bets $5.55 (All-In).....
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:51 AM #2 (permalink)  
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both seem fine, you´re commited anyway.

against really bad opponents you might felt hand 2 preflop as well.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Both are fine pushes. I think in hand 1 you should raise more on the flop to $3.50-$4.00.
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