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aka_red
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02-21-2009, 05:36 AM
Post subject: 2/4 wierd spot with queens
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previous history i have raised him twice on low semi coordinated flop the first time was 467fd or so the second was 893fd i raissed he 3b overs + fd and we got it in
villain (flop raiser) is like 17/15 over my sample with a 4% 3b small sample tho ive also seen him play a little higher some 3/6 and maybe some 5/10 iirc?
i had been messing with him so i decided to flat queens here to balance out my range a bit
flop donker is assumed donk? i remember thinking he was bad but not sure why or if i had seen anything specific
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
SB ($400)
BB ($241.10)
UTG ($692.85)
UTG+1 ($76)
MP1 ($406)
Hero (MP2) ($499)
CO ($427.50)
Button ($400)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , Q
2 folds, MP1 bets $12, Hero calls $12, 3 folds, BB calls $8
Flop: ($38) 6 , 6, 3 (3 players)
BB bets $20, MP1 raises to $60, Hero ?
folding seems weak but at the same time im crushed by a value range which is like 6x jj+ id even expect him to call with some of those but at the same time i don't know his bluffing frequency here or what he thinks of the bonk
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Deanglow
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is this against thenutspt?
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aka_red
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no villain is pokemyyface
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[11:11] <+bikes> bitches love your face
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Deanglow
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i guess nothing but calling makes sense here
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mcatdog
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I would click call. I think you clearly have enough equity vs his bluffs + worse value raises to call this street. Also this hand is nowhere near the top of your range so you can expect him to play pretty honestly vs you for the rest of the hand.
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gametight
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Call. Turn...
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Renton
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yeah
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aka_red
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okay turn is a K he bets 85
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I fold now on the turn although I still like the flop call. He's got to think our range preflop and on flop is exclusively QQ+, 33 and 66 and once this turn hits and he continues again he is no longer betting TT-JJ for value. His range on flop could be a lot of air, including AK and now that he hit if he checks he turns his hand face up. He's still betting KQ/KK/AA/AK here and I dont see how you're ever ahead here.
You're also on the very bottom end of your range which should make you more likely to fold. Now if you had AA here I think I would have a tougher decision but still probably try to get it in.
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