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Old 04-23-2008, 08:48 PM     Post subject: 10NL- QQ ip #1 (permalink)  
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few hands before V had raised PF the same amount w/ 1 limper. He hand't been very active pf. All in?

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MP2 ($13.50)
Hero ($8.95)
Button ($9.15)
SB ($10.40)
BB ($1.95)
UTG ($4.25)
UTG+1 ($9.80)
MP1 ($3.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.6, Hero calls $0.60, 3 folds, UTG folds.

Flop: ($1.45) , , (2 players)
MP2 bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.5, MP2 raises to $4.5, Hero?????
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:26 PM #2 (permalink)  
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3bet pf? As played, shove.
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3bet pf? As played, shove.
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Old 04-24-2008, 02:55 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd like a quick look at the 3bet pf. At 10NL, just about any raise over .40 gets folded all around, unless there are pp's or premiums involved, and any and every 3bet pf I ever do is folded around except where all they have is premiums OR absolute crap, but these fuckers are usually obvious after their first couple of rotations.

Doesn't this super narrow range of hands they call a 3bet with make it a bad idea? PLUS the fact that 90-95% of the time isolation will be given w/ a 6xBB raise here.
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I'd like a quick look at the 3bet pf. At 10NL, just about any raise over .40 gets folded all around, unless there are pp's or premiums involved, and any and every 3bet pf I ever do is folded around except where all they have is premiums OR absolute crap, but these fuckers are usually obvious after their first couple of rotations.

Doesn't this super narrow range of hands they call a 3bet with make it a bad idea? PLUS the fact that 90-95% of the time isolation will be given w/ a 6xBB raise here.
3 betting here preflop is standard for me at 10nl

Any time villain will narrow his range, we're better off, especially if we don't have a rock reputation. You're too focused on simply winning the hand.

Villain is basically playing cards face up - we know what he has. Because of this, the reasons a very narrow villain range is so cool:
1. Hero can bet very precisely - bluff a lot, offer just the right pot odds for value bets, get away from hands that hero would otherwise have to pay off or call an extra street. Hero can maximize earn and minimize losses.
2. Hero is unlikely to make a big mistake
3. Villain is extremely likely to make a big mistake against a 3 bettor who isn't too nitty - if hero has a wide 3 betting range, he's NOT playing his cards face up.
4. Hero can accurately pick off bluffs, or induce bluffs, when he hits his hand.
5. If hero has a big stack behind, the 3bet aggression keeps villain on the back foot - hero's repping good cards with a big stack and a willingness to bet them. Even if villain has AK and hits TPTK on the flop, how sure is he that he's ahead? He knows his range is narrow (if he's not brain dead) or at least knows both players are acting like they have good hands. So how good is hand? Hero knows. Villain can only guess.

Every way you slice it, a narrow range for villain is VERY +EV. It doesn't matter if we only win 1 hand in 5 here, if on that one hand villain makes a huge mistake and coughs up a stack.
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