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Old 06-12-2008, 12:00 AM     Post subject: 10NL oi... freak'n limped pots.. #1 (permalink)  
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V was 50/0/0.5@50 hands. I'm sure with this range we can confidently say he's calling with Ax here, which was my thoughts. I can't say how many times betting 1/2 pot size scares everyone out of a pot at 10NL. Are we betting here on the flop? c/c? c/f?




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Hero ($10)
CO ($2.75)
Button ($6.95)
SB ($1.90)
BB ($4)
UTG ($14.35)
UTG+1 ($1.80)
MP1 ($5.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2, A.
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.55) A, A, T (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($1.30) 6 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1.30) J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.6, Hero raises to $2.4, BB folds, UTG raises to $14.6 (All-In), Hero puked a little in his mouth and....

Final Pot: $20.60
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:02 AM #2 (permalink)  
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It's a cooler. Call
 
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:13 AM #3 (permalink)  
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you have to bet that turn card. keep punishing those weaker hands.

Half bet on turn, just like the flop would be nice. I'm not yet discounting KQ calling on the frop with a gutshot draw.

I'm guessing you posted this hand because AT flopped the nuts, but I'm still sticking in the rest on this river. Deanglow is right, it's a cooler call.


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Old 06-12-2008, 02:32 AM #4 (permalink)  
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What do you guys think about betting half pot on the flop in this huge of a multiway?
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:38 PM #5 (permalink)  
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You can't lay it down. Hope he has KQ, probably the K of clubs. My read is that he wanted to see that final card as much as you did. A hard bet on the turn might have told you a little more.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:45 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Against a stronger player I can fold here. A weaker player is going to play trips like the nuts too often.

I would make a bigger flop bet as well.
 
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My read is that he wanted to see that final card as much as you did.
This is such a damn good point.

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I would make a bigger flop bet as well.
When you bet into a pot with this many people still in, do you size your bets generally around 2/3 or 3/4?
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When you bet into a pot with this many people still in, do you size your bets generally around 2/3 or 3/4?
In a limped pot with lots of money behind.

At least the size of the pot, often over-bet.

Otherwise people calling light aren't making much of a mistake (unless they play a later street terribly), it also makes hands easier to read and builds a pot faster when you want to play a big pot while tending to freeze up people when you want to control the pot.

Save that 2/3ish to 3/4ish crap for when the pot is big and your range has more air and weak hands. When I bet into a nothing pot, I'm either looking to pick up some change or get a big pot going. Dinky little bets into dinky little pots against players who like to limp don't get either job done.
 
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:21 PM #9 (permalink)  
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