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pokerfan
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05-06-2009, 06:56 PM
Post subject: 100NL, what to do in 3 bet pot with KK on Ace high flop?
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Two donks in the pot. MP2 is 30/0/5 over 60 hands. BB is 43/6/0.5 over 70 hands.
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($100)
Hero (SB) ($104.55)
BB ($50.65)
UTG ($88.30)
UTG+1 ($21.90)
MP1 ($108)
MP2 ($58.70)
MP3 ($22)
CO ($115.60)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , K
3 folds, MP2 bets $5, 3 folds, Hero raises $12, BB calls $11.50, MP2 calls $7.50
Flop: ($37.50) 6 , 4 , A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 bets $12, Hero calls $12, 1 fold
Turn: ($61.50) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $19,
Hero feel so dirty ??
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bmc03
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Fold, it's no limit $ game u know some1 limped with a weak ace, shoulda probably folded on the flop
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oskar
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I'd c/r flop, and prolly lead turn, if I think he can lay down AJ, AQ, Ax.
You has K blockerzzzz.
It's not a line you would take with AK, but wth... you don't need to balance against idiots imo.
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Originally Posted by oskar
I'd c/r flop, and prolly lead turn, if I think he can lay down AJ, AQ, Ax.
You has K blockerzzz
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omg NO!
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oskar
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Oh jesus, I just saw he's 30/0 over 60 and he opened.
I think this is AAA more than anything else...
Peeling is prolly not terrible because he could be making the bet with QQ, but I'd be done on the turn, especially if he bets again in position.
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ATOTHEC101
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whats up with your pf 3 bet size? You're oop and you only make it $12. Make it $18 please. Postflop is a preety standard spot that's always really gay, multiway I just check/fold and hope to get to showdown.
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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
whats up with your pf 3 bet size? You're oop and you only make it $12. Make it $18 please. Postflop is a preety standard spot that's always really gay, multiway I just check/fold and hope to get to showdown.
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look their donkey short stacks.
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daven
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3-bet harder
and ignore this stupidity:
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Originally Posted by oskar
I'd c/r flop, and prolly lead turn, if I think he can lay down AJ, AQ, Ax.
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BigPapi
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17/18 preflop
I usually like to c/c 1 street, but it looks like he's putting his stack in on 3 streets in nicely sized pieces which seems a lot like value, so turn is a fold imo. 3 way against these players even flop might be foldable after he bets that amount
I wouldnt even consider c/r
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PF size is fine, do ppl even look at stack sizes?
I'd think about flatting PF some % of the time
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I would just move in on the flop.
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30/0 probably has some hand he likes since he raises first time in 60 hands. And we have a 45/6 left to act who likes calling pf. I dont think MP2 is going anywhere and preflop we for sure arent going anywhere. I'd rather try and keep it headsup then have BB coming along for the ride as well.
Why would you want to raise small? I can see flatting a small % of the time.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I would just move in on the flop.
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Why do you want to turn the kings into a bluff?
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been said - but i hate your preflop raise sizing, it makes the hand so awkward to play post flop
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
PF size is fine, do ppl even look at stack sizes?
I'd think about flatting PF some % of the time
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I would just move in on the flop.
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Why do you want to turn the kings into a bluff?
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With about pot behind on the flop I usually just shove. I've had worse hands call.
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fnord do you really think we are >50% vs. their calling ranges?
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