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Old 02-20-2008, 09:15 PM     Post subject: 100NL two hands against a huge donk #1 (permalink)  
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the guy is 67.5/0.8/0.7 around 130 hands, loose stations and capable of bluffing with air on scary cards. i saw him bluff big a few times on scary board.

hand 1: he donked out on the turn, should i just flat call or raise to deny his imply odds? if raising, how much to go?

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Hero ($103.85)
Button ($63.45)
SB ($12.05)
BB ($102.90)
UTG ($110.50)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($89.50)
MP2 ($182.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, J.
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, MP1 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) Q, 8, J (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $7, MP1 calls $7.

Turn: ($25.50) A (2 players)
MP1 bets $11, Hero ?

hand 2: Should i slowdown on this scary board from the turn on or still go b/f mode vs this donk?

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UTG ($36.65)
UTG+1 ($98)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($93)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($100)
Button ($234.35)
SB ($224.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
6 folds, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero raises to $6, Button calls $5, SB folds.

Flop: ($13) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button calls $8.

Turn: ($29) (2 players)
Hero ?
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Must raise here and play for stacks.
Hand 2: Uhhhh..... I prob c/c
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:00 AM #3 (permalink)  

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Hand 1: Agreed -- raise here, play for stacks
Hand 2: Why is c/c better than c/f here? Is catching a bluff from a flush draw really worth playing against the many many hands in opps range that beat him? Just curious.
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Giving him credit for Jx is absurd.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:40 AM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 2:
on the turn,i didnt give him any credit either but i still gotta make difficult decision on this scary river when i checked and he shoved all-in NOW. call or not? he was really a HUGE bluffing donk.

Turn: ($29) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $14, Hero calls $14.

River: ($57) 6 (2 players)
hero checks, button shoved , hero?
Final Pot: $57


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Giving him credit for Jx is absurd.
Maybe true, but why? In my thinking, his range on the turn is pretty huge given his stats. Also, a set of 3s, 4s, 56, a made nut or near-nut flush, or -hell- 34 are certainly in his range. Is opp getting his chips in more often with air than with one of the above hands?
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:06 PM #7 (permalink)  
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the definition of " huge donk" i think is he did call down with air very often. So we cant give him any credit for flop floating though. River is very tough for my decision
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Giving him credit for Jx is absurd.
Maybe true, but why? In my thinking, his range on the turn is pretty huge given his stats. Also, a set of 3s, 4s, 56, a made nut or near-nut flush, or -hell- 34 are certainly in his range. Is opp getting his chips in more often with air than with one of the above hands?
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