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100NL, two big pots vs the same fish
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pokerfan
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11-02-2009, 05:19 AM
Post subject: 100NL, two big pots vs the same fish
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NS, Canada
Posts: 1,736
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hand 1:
fish is 50/13/1.5 over 170 hands and limps crazy. His ATS% is 18%. I didnt tangle with him much until this hand. His turn bet sizing looks very scary but KK crushes lots of worse hands in his range. Also, i noticed that he insta bet this much on the turn.
Fold, flat or shove?
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG+1 ($209.60)
MP1 ($152.40)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($125.95)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($100.50)
BB ($100)
UTG ($120.45)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , K
4 folds, CO calls $1, Hero bets $5, 2 folds, CO calls $4
Flop: ($11.50) 6 , 10 , 4 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $8, CO raises $16, Hero calls $8
Turn: ($43.50) 2 (2 players)
CO bets $40, Hero ?
hand 2: this hand happened in a few orbits at the same table vs the same donk. Anything wrong here on my part?
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP1 ($117.50)
MP2 ($169.65)
CO ($221.25)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($109.30)
BB ($246.30)
UTG ($107.25)
UTG+1 ($129.90)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , J
4 folds, CO calls $1, Hero bets $5, 2 folds, CO calls $4
Flop: ($11.50) 4 , 10 , 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7
Turn: ($25.50) A (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $15, CO calls $15
River: ($55.50) J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $26, CO raises $52, Hero ?
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holdenthefuries
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($100.50)
BB ($100)
UTG ($120.45)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K (AA Limp/Shoves here...)
4 folds, CO calls $1, Hero bets $5, 2 folds, CO calls $4
Flop: ($11.50) 6, 10, 4 (2 players) WA/WB. May as well overbet the pot here to see if he straight shoves over (Set or Combo Draw perhaps...) or if he folds out his worse stuff (10x, 2 Diamonds... I assume he is calling more than raising this spot so you should probably be aware if you're beat. There is a chance he has Ace-Ten as well... That would make sense. Charge it.)
CO checks, Hero bets $8, CO raises $16, Hero calls $8
Turn: ($43.50) 2 (2 players)
Set, you may possibly be dealing with a draw that will fire a river as well hit/miss. Soul read, then shove or fold. I'm probably folding this spot more often than not though. A10 also makes sense as do certain high-cards such as KQ, AK, etc... if he just feels it's a good time to be aggro. His aggression factor however makes it seem to me that he simply has it. Dunno though, tough spot.
CO bets $40, Hero ?
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holdenthefuries
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 21
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MP1 ($117.50)
MP2 ($169.65)
CO ($221.25)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($109.30)
BB ($246.30)
UTG ($107.25)
UTG+1 ($129.90)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A, J
4 folds, CO calls $1, Hero bets $5, 2 folds, CO calls $4
Flop: ($11.50) 4, 10, 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7
Turn: ($25.50) A (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $15, CO calls $15
River: ($55.50) J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $26, CO raises $52, Hero ?
For what it's worth... Leading three streets is right. Seems like a simple call here. Villain thinks you've missed your draw. Bet pot on every street, btw. I'd probably shove the river as well with the pot as big as it is. I don't think you're seeing a slowplayed set or spiked straight (why did they stay in when you bet so much?) here as often as j10 or something you beat, maybe aq, ak or even ax of some lower kicker. Maybe split (rarely.)
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,308
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hand 1 - fold turn
hand 2 - $9 on flop, larger on turn, like the smallish bet on river. it sucks when he raises, i dont hate a call but i could find a fold here since i doubt we are good 20% of the time we need to be.
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daven
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Straight Flush
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hand 1 fold turn. Fish don't lead the turn after a bluff check-raise very often, he thinks his hand is good. I think he plays this way with sets more often than JJ/QQ cos these aren't really that likely given his pre-flop limp-call
hand 2 that's kinda gross but i call the c-r on the river cos you gotta be good sometimes, right? Turn bet should be bigger.
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