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Old 07-21-2008, 05:31 PM     Post subject: 100nl- tough spot vs tag. #1 (permalink)  
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villain in the hand is a solid 12/10 tag, who is also quite passive with a total af of 1.2. Hes the sort of player who i dont think would play a set fast on this flop though im not sure. My main concern is of jacks full or possibly kings or aces as his 3 bet % was only like 1 percent. standard fold?

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The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ATOTHEC101 [Qs Qd]
Eastland calls $1
nellie1972 folds
ATOTHEC101 raises to $4.5
mpethybridge calls $4.5
Ktupac folds
Z28guy folds
pitt2700 calls $4.5
McHotDog folds
mehababa folds
Eastland calls $3.5
*** FLOP *** [2c Jh 6c]
Eastland checks
ATOTHEC101 bets $13.5
mpethybridge calls $13.5
pitt2700 folds
Eastland folds
*** TURN *** [2c Jh 6c] [6h]
ATOTHEC101 bets $28
mpethybridge has 15 seconds left to act
mpethybridge calls $28
*** RIVER *** [2c Jh 6c 6h] [8s]
ATOTHEC101 checks
mpethybridge has 15 seconds left to act
mpethybridge has requested TIME
mpethybridge bets $61.10, and is all in
ATOTHEC101 folds?
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Old 07-21-2008, 05:38 PM #2 (permalink)  
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check turn and fold to a large bet.If checked through on the turn, b/f on the river. As played, fold
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Old 07-21-2008, 05:42 PM #3 (permalink)  
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well if he already has a boat or aa here he really isnt going to bet the turn hard at all as hell want to milk us for value, do we still check fold turn if he bets say 18? or would you call then check/fold to a large bet on the river?
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Old 07-21-2008, 05:59 PM #4 (permalink)  
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i definitely call small-medium turn bet and c/f to his big river bet if he is really that passive tight
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i agree with turn check but I'm skeptical about those stats. 12/10/1.2 is like totally unheard of. Is that not including preflop or something?
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I call.

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 overpair 4-way to a flop is horrible.
Check-call turn.
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:07 AM #8 (permalink)  
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seriously, his stats were indeed 12/10 with an af of 1.2, it was weird how passive he was. guess that makes it an easy fold.
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12/10 with af of 1.2 is NL10 stats my boy
that's what all my tables consist of
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:34 AM #10 (permalink)  
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thats so bizarre cos his preflop aggression factor is like 4 so he must almost never bet or raise postflop which for someone with decent preflop stats is so weird. Sample size?
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12/10 with af of 1.2 is NL10 stats my boy
that's what all my tables consist of
really?!? change sites...
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:17 PM #12 (permalink)  
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12/10 with af of 1.2 is NL10 stats my boy
that's what all my tables consist of
really?!? change sites...
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:07 PM #14 (permalink)  

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I have him at 11/7 with AF of 2.4 over 8041 hands. He is a 2p2 reg and a winning player.

Also, i think that against this player you are pretty much never good here on the river. He shows up with JJ here more often than not.
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here are some stats of people from my tables
16.7/13.3/0.67 over 42
20.8/7.8/0.82 over 77
11.8/11.8/0.67 over 34

so not quite as bad, they're slightly looser
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i bet if you get a decent sample none of them will be like that...
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