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pokerfan
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04-04-2008, 01:25 PM
Post subject: 100NL, top two pairs facing tough river bet
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villain is 11.36/4.55/0 over 44 hands. Hmmm, i didnt expect him to bet this much on the river. 
sometimes , i just limp in QTs behind a loose fish in this weak game.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($19.55)
UTG+1 ($136)
MP1 ($236.65)
MP2 ($141.50)
Hero ($100)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($100)
BB ($94)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , T .
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BB checks.
Flop: ($3.50) 2 , 7 , T (3 players)
BB bets $2, MP1 folds, Hero calls $2.
Turn: ($7.50) Q (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $9.
River: ($31.50) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $36, Hero ?
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I like a raise preflop, we has position and you say he's a fish.
As played I think you can find a fold here, I don't expect this villain to be bluffing very much at all and by overbetting he's got greedy with his set.
Also, what's your SN?
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i occasionally limped in some stuff behind an uber fish when blinds look like tight guys. I dont think we should always raise/isolate these stuff in position.
i will pm you my sn
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Originally Posted by badgers
I like a raise preflop, we has position and you say he's a fish.
As played I think you can find a fold here, I don't expect this villain to be bluffing very much at all and by overbetting he's got greedy with his set.
Also, what's your SN? 
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
i occasionally limped in some stuff behind an uber fish when blinds look like tight guys. I dont think we should always raise/isolate these stuff in position.
i will pm you my sn
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Originally Posted by badgers
I like a raise preflop, we has position and you say he's a fish.
As played I think you can find a fold here, I don't expect this villain to be bluffing very much at all and by overbetting he's got greedy with his set.
Also, what's your SN? 
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If the blinds are tight that's all the more reason to raise, we have an increased chance of successfully isolating the fish!
Simple recipe for beating small-stakes FR games:
1. raise behind limpers
2. bet the flop
3. ???
4. profit
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pokerfan
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i raise here roughly 60% of the time, limp behind 20% and fold 20% depending on my table reads and villain's preflop slowplay tendency. In live loose passive games, i limp behind limpers 80% of the time and raise 20% of the time.
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
i occasionally limped in some stuff behind an uber fish when blinds look like tight guys. I dont think we should always raise/isolate these stuff in position.
i will pm you my sn
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Originally Posted by badgers
I like a raise preflop, we has position and you say he's a fish.
As played I think you can find a fold here, I don't expect this villain to be bluffing very much at all and by overbetting he's got greedy with his set.
Also, what's your SN? 
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If the blinds are tight that's all the more reason to raise, we have an increased chance of successfully isolating the fish!
Simple recipe for beating small-stakes FR games:
1. raise behind limpers
2. bet the flop
3. ???
4. profit
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Raise preflop
I think river is boarderline call depending on what i think of my opponent. if hes been quiet i muck if he hasnt i call
btw, raising preflop here is 100% right and therefore should be done 100% of the time.
the only hand that makes real sense is a set of 7s or 2s or A7 that backed into a flush. If opp bet an oesd on flop he couldnt back into a fd IMO due to river card
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Another vote for a raise preflop. It would also make this hand easier to play by cutting down villian's potential range.
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As played, I'd look him up on the river. A LOT of his range is stuff like a flopped two pair or a worse turned two pair.
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honestly, i havent seen any made straight flush since i started playing online.
okay, guys. As played, i looked him up and he did have worse two pairs. hooray
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raise preflop every freaking time, and call the river. he can easily have a worse 2 pair here.
EDIT: i just noticed you posted the results. i didn't read that before, honest!
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Keilah
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04-05-2008, 05:44 PM
Post subject: Re: 100NL, top two pairs facing tough river bet
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villain is 11.36/4.55/0 over 44 hands. Hmmm, i didnt expect him to bet this much on the river. 
sometimes , i just limp in QTs behind a loose fish in this weak game.
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11.4/4.5 is loose? I kinda thought that was average-ish.
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badgers
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04-05-2008, 06:15 PM
Post subject: Re: 100NL, top two pairs facing tough river bet
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villain is 11.36/4.55/0 over 44 hands. Hmmm, i didnt expect him to bet this much on the river. 
sometimes , i just limp in QTs behind a loose fish in this weak game.
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11.4/4.5 is loose? I kinda thought that was average-ish.
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mp1 =/= villain
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