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Old 12-15-2008, 04:45 AM     Post subject: 100NL, some tough spots for review #1 (permalink)  
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hand 1: villain is a regular running 13/10/3. I dont think he'd call my shove with any worse hands on the turn, so whats your plan?
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MP2 ($49)
CO ($100)
Button ($98.80)
SB ($87)
Hero (BB) ($115)
UTG ($111.60)
UTG+1 ($90.05)
MP1 ($68.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
3 folds, MP2 raises to $3, CO calls $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, CO calls $11

Flop: ($31.50) 5, 7, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $18, CO calls $18

Turn: ($67.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero ?

hand 2: villian looked like an unknown donk. Should i c/c or block the river?

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MP3 ($158.60)
CO ($131.20)
Button ($204)
SB ($23.25)
BB ($29.35)
UTG ($143.50)
UTG+1 ($101.50)
Hero (MP1) ($111)
MP2 ($100)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP3 calls $4, 4 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 4, 5, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, MP3 calls $5.50

Turn: ($20.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, MP3 calls $12.50

River: ($45.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero ?

hand 3: villain is 14.8/8/5 over 500 hands. Again, we have overpair oop facing a flop raise. Whats your plan on the turn ? Is this guy betting for value or just something else?

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UTG ($26.40)
UTG+1 ($31.05)
Hero (MP1) ($100)
MP2 ($39.65)
CO ($121.70)
Button ($98.05)
SB ($109.50)
BB ($86.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, Button calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) Q, 9, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button raises to $15, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($39.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $21, Hero ?
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 1) im arrr in.
2) vs an unknown i think i prefer to b/f like half pot maybe.
3) im calling here for sure.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1, this really looks like QQ, maybe TT, to me. I don't know if he calls a push but he's probably as unsure if he has the best hand as you are. If he's capable of folding I'd say do what you would do with AA.

Hand 2, agree with will641, b/f half the pot sounds good.

Hand 3, Villain's stats lead me to believe that this is most likely a semi-bluff or a Q. I check this turn planning to shove.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:42 AM #4 (permalink)  
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i need more comments on hand 1 and hand 3 :P This is how these two hands developed from turn on.

hand 1:My original plan is c/ shove and induce his turn bet if possible. However, he seemed to like his hand a lot and made a commitment turn bet.

Turn: ($67.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $33, Hero ?


hand 2: I think that only better hands call my c/ shove on the turn, which happens a whole lot in FR games.

Turn: ($39.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $21, Hero calls $21

River: ($81.50) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $58.05 (All-In), Hero ?
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:42 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 - any bet commits you. Check has merit, so long as you call. His bet-when-checked to range is wider than his calling range.

hand 2 - check-call up to pot cos the gutshot came through. Also, you have showdown value, block fold I don't like.

hand 3 - what was your plan when you checked? I don't like check-call without a plan. Why not bet turn?
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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hand 1 - any bet commits you. Check has merit, so long as you call. His bet-when-checked to range is wider than his calling range.

hand 2 - check-call up to pot cos the gutshot came through. Also, you have showdown value, block fold I don't like.

hand 3 - what was your plan when you checked? I don't like check-call without a plan. Why not bet turn?
hand 1: i checked/ shove and he didnt even call his last $30
hand 2: i checked/ call his $20 river bet and lost.
hand 3: i like your turn line. i dont think that check/ shove on the turn is a good play vs FR standard players.
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hand 1 - any bet commits you. Check has merit, so long as you call. His bet-when-checked to range is wider than his calling range.

hand 2 - check-call up to pot cos the gutshot came through. Also, you have showdown value, block fold I don't like.

hand 3 - what was your plan when you checked? I don't like check-call without a plan. Why not bet turn?
hand 1: i checked/ shove and he didnt even call his last $30
hand 2: i checked/ call his $20 river bet and lost.
hand 3: i like your turn line. i dont think that check/ shove on the turn is a good play vs FR standard players.
hand 1: you probably got max value
hand 2: cool, it cost you the same as a block - but you got to showdown with showdown value
hand 3 - thx.
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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1) im arrr in.
2) vs an unknown i think i prefer to b/f like half pot maybe.
3) im calling here for sure.
Why b/f? I like c/c much more. It works as a bluff catcher and you get to see a showdown instead of folding to a shove. It's probably a matter of F/E but I don't see much here.
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 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally hate c/c in hand 2

come on now
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1 - shoving the turn is good, betting $18 again on the turn and shoving the river may be better. make a note on this guy that he doesn't make big calls. you can 3-bet preflop, bet the flop and shove the turn against him with a wide range.

2 - bet/fold $15. daven why don't you like blocking bets when you have showdown value? what do you think the purpose of a blocking bet is?

3 - check/shove the turn because I don't this guy is betting enough queens or bluffs on the river to justify calling the all-in but he might talk himself into a hero call on the turn.
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1) im arrr in.
2) vs an unknown i think i prefer to b/f like half pot maybe.
3) im calling here for sure.
Why b/f? I like c/c much more. It works as a bluff catcher and you get to see a showdown instead of folding to a shove. It's probably a matter of F/E but I don't see much here.
basically because i expect him to peel a lot of stuff he would otherwise check behind.
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