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pokerfan
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07-17-2009, 07:43 PM
Post subject: 100NL, QQ vs 4 BET preflop
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4-of-a-Kind
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villian is a 100NL/200NL regular running 14/12/3.7. His steal is 31% and 3 bet is 4.7 % in FR games. His min 4 bet sounds pretty weird,right? Is this a fold, call or shove in these spots?
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($117.40)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($106.25)
Button ($55.85)
Hero (SB) ($186.10)
BB ($101.50)
UTG ($130)
UTG+1 ($47.50)
MP1 ($123.50)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q , Q
4 folds, MP3 bets $3, 2 folds, Hero raises $12.50, 1 fold, MP3 raises $25, Hero ?
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hint: it isn't a fold or a call
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
hint: it isn't a fold or a call
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all right.Do we still shove over with AK?
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This is completely impossible to answer without your stats. His 4bet size is not the min and is only just under standard if he's got bluffs in his range.
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I mean it's not really impossible to answer since it is a shove unless you play like 8/6 or something but this is such a completely standard spot I have no idea why you have posted it.
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Originally Posted by badgers
I mean it's not really impossible to answer since it is a shove unless you play like 8/6 or something but this is such a completely standard spot I have no idea why you have posted it.
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I did push and run into kk.I'm just wondering if he 4 bet small to induce my shove. Do u shove with Ak also? my stat is very standard like 13/10/3 with 3bet 3%.
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well yeah he did ldo but he could just as easily be looking to 4bet bluff cheaply if you aren't shoving over a 4bet just call easy game. if i 3bet AK it is with the intention of shoving so yes i shove AK too here if i get in this spot.
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4bing tiny IP is cool actually
I do it a lot, but only IP
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You should really ship here if you're going to 3b in the first place. I know you're going to be oop postflop but we have a decent hand that we can play profitably here. I would 3b/ship here the majority and I expect that the tiny 4b is a way to 4b/fold since I've seen this a ton in the past month in the 100 and 200 games.
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4bing tiny IP is cool actually
I do it a lot, but only IP
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for whatever reasons I love 4betting my range very small when OOP.
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