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pokerfan
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08-01-2009, 03:46 AM
Post subject: 100NL, QQ preflop decision
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SB is a regular running 13/10/2.6 with 3 bet 3.7%. Two cold callers are 35/12/ donks. There's lots of dead money in the pot at this point. What to do with QQ? 4 bet or flat call with a likely 4-way pot? Whats our plan on the undercards flop?
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($21)
UTG ($269.85)
Hero (UTG+1) ($101.50)
MP1 ($89.75)
MP2 ($123.90)
MP3 ($59.65)
CO ($49.90)
Button ($18.50)
SB ($100)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q , Q
1 fold, Hero bets $4, 2 folds, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB raises $12.50, 1 fold, Hero ?
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ZwiFT
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just wanna start out by saying no regular 3bets that small into 1 raisor (4bb) + 2 callers oop in the blinds.
That is unless he is not a regular in that stake, or he has a motive behind it
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by ZwiFT
just wanna start out by saying no regular 3bets that small into 1 raisor (4bb) + 2 callers oop in the blinds.
That is unless he is not a regular in that stake, or he has a motive behind it
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2k hands logged in my database. what do u think his motive is?
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Miffed22001
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call and keep the dead money donks behind in the pot
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ZwiFT
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I would think that he wants the donks to call ( for value ).
He got low 3b%, he raises your utg+1 bet, he is oop. But since the donks are in the pot he might want to squeeze you out and keep them in the pot!
Imagine yourself in his shoes with JJ+,AK and maybe AQ. Would you flat 4way or raise to sqz u out and get value against the donks?
So yeah were in position so we already have an advantage, I would call. On the flop i would call any board not containing an ace (if the two donks call, or one). And if your alone with SB i might just also call an A high board to see what he does on the turn
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pokerfan
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it's a 4-way pot after I flat called in the worst relative position.SB fired big on ace high flop,so I made a trivial fold with two donks behind.
not happy at all.
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Fnord
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Yeah, he wants a REALLY big pot and isn't as worried about this going 4-way OOP as he is about folding out the weak hands. Or he misread the action when multi-tabling.
KK+/AKs/AQs?
Probably an annoying fold.
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elipsesjeff
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Fairly standard call given we're getting a real good price. If the donks stay in and our opponent cbets then its an easy fold. If he checks we should bet and get it in vs the donks but not vs the reraiser.
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