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nogenius
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08-01-2006, 11:15 PM
Post subject: 100NL QQ led into on turn
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP1 ($101.70)
Hero ($100)
CO ($96.50)
Button ($89.80)
SB ($80.50)
BB ($119.15)
UTG ($133.15)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , Q .
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG calls $4.
Flop: ($11.50) 8, 4 , 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $30, UTG calls $20.
Turn: ($71.50) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $20, Hero ???
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UTG has not shown down a hand yet, he's 40/5 over 15 hands.
What's your move here?
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Dislexsik
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Board is to dangerous.
U raised him on the flop, he called.Fine.
He bets into u on the turn, fold.Unless u got a good read on him.
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martindcx1e
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get out fast!!
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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AHiltz
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He's trying to buy it.
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Fnord
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Aren't you glad you raised that flop for information!
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Aren't you glad you raised that flop for information!
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villain sure is 
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Fnord
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I seriously haven't a clue where our hero is at. All I figure is that his opponent has to have a piece at this point.
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Halv
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I think opp has more than a single pair here a very large percentage of times. Whether that turn bet is trying to induce a raise or is looking for a cheap showdown doesn't really matter to me, I think we're probably not going to have the best of it often enough to put in more chips here.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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KoRnholio
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He's giving us 4.5:1 odds with his turn bet in this large pot. This looks like a classic suck bet to induce our JJ+ to call here and then again on the river.
Fnord, if we just call on the flop, what's our game plan for the rest of the hand? Say he leads for $15 (1/2 pot) on the turn (same card), do we just call again and seek a cheap showdown?
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Halv
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.
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I'll say 87s, 88 or 77, although a flushdraw, TT/99 or something silly like A8 is not impossible. 40/5 certainly includes lots of top pair type hands, but based on only 15 hands I think that's a bit early to tell.
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.
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i think pushing is the worst option. for a range....88, 44, 77, 56, 78, 99-JJ, A8...how's that sound?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.
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Why are we playing for stacks here?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
I love how no one is attempting to put UTG on a range. I push.
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Why are we playing for stacks here? |
It's either play for stacks or fold. Just calling is a mistake leaving those as the only two decent options IMO. Folding is probably more prudent, but without a read I'll also push here sometimes.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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