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Old 08-15-2006, 01:34 PM     Post subject: 100NL QQ all in preflop #1 (permalink)  
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 UTG+2 has been at the table for about one orbit and has been all in probably 6 times, I have his range crushed and am not the least worried about him.

MP1, however, is a 27/1.45 LP. I haven't seen any notable moves from him and don't really know what range I should put him on.

Does anyone not push here?

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BB ($22.00)
UTG ($107.50)
Hero ($104.60)
UTG+2 ($90.50)
MP1 ($107.25)
MP2 ($137.85)
MP3 ($10.00)
CO ($94.40)
Button ($51.50)
SB ($72.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, Q.
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5.5, UTG+2 raises (90.50 , MP1 calls $90.50, 6 folds, UTG folds, Hero raises $104.60, MP1 calls $14.10.

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Old 08-15-2006, 01:38 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think MP1 has you beat. That being said, against his stats, I think you gotta push.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:09 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I ran some possible ranges through pokerstove;

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 18.9204 % 18.29% 00.63% { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2: 35.5214 % 34.24% 01.28% { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 3: 45.5582 % 44.60% 00.96% { QQ }

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 18.9313 % 18.32% 00.61% { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2: 37.9361 % 36.61% 01.32% { TT+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 3: 43.1326 % 42.08% 01.05% { QQ }

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 17.4884 % 16.79% 00.70% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2: 42.3010 % 40.75% 01.55% { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 3: 40.2106 % 39.01% 01.20% { QQ }

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 16.0778 % 16.13% 00.35% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2: 46.4107 % 46.72% 00.86% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 3: 37.5115 % 37.46% 01.00% { QQ }

(Note btw that I'm in worse shape if we loosen MP1s range to include AQs than against AK/JJ+, how peculiar).

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 18.0898 % 17.71% 00.38% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2: 63.5916 % 60.62% 02.98% { QQ+ }
Hand 3: 18.3186 % 15.50% 02.82% { QQ }

So I've got odds in all cases except QQ+. He's probably getting aggrevated by the pushbot often enough to have a looser range than QQ+ here or what?

(the range on villain is certainly not 100%, he might be tighter and on a hot streak, but let's just assume hes a donk-maniac).

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Old 08-15-2006, 04:17 PM #4 (permalink)  
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That's a ton of money to be putting in PF with QQ with 2 in front of you, regardless of your reads. Donkboy fine, but to flat call a near stack size raise and not push youself screams "I want someone else in here because I have AA." or "I don't know how to play poker" too...

All the same, QQ 3-way for stacks is a bit much for me. Just because they're sucky players doesn't mean they can't get great cards...
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