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Old 08-14-2007, 07:40 AM     Post subject: 100nl - KK facing 4-bet push from half stack #1 (permalink)  
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 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($67.80)
SB ($102.65)
BB ($48.90)
UTG ($67.60)
UTG+1 ($111.65)
MP1 ($105.40)
MP2 ($18.50)
Hero ($124.95)
CO ($97.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $11, 3 folds, BB raises to $48.9, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $37.90.

Flop: ($101.30) 8, 7, J (2 players)

Turn: ($101.30) 6 (2 players)

River: ($101.30) 6 (2 players)

Final Pot: $101.30
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:15 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Need more info, has he been active, any stats, why is he half stacked, how long at table, etc.

Without any of those, easy call.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:24 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 standard call vs. half stack, and probly full stack if hes not a nit.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:38 PM #4 (permalink)  
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lol what's the question here? i know you aren't thinking about folding..........are you?
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:43 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:45 PM #6 (permalink)  
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lol what's the question here? i know you aren't thinking about folding..........are you?
Just being a bit self-conscious about my game I think.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:46 PM #7 (permalink)  
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lol what's the question here? i know you aren't thinking about folding..........are you?
Just being a bit self-conscious about my game I think.
i think so too. take it easy on yourself. this is a really really easy decision.
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:16 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I said call before i even viewed the hand.
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I said call before i even viewed the hand.
haha i know for real
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:22 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I said call before i even viewed the hand.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:50 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Im confused by the first 2 replies being so cautious. Are we folding KK preflop often at 100NL?
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:21 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 Dudes, you never see good players discussing about whether or not to fold KK for 100bb because it is an easy insta-felt. If you think you're getting killed here you're actually a nit/tagfish who doesn't play that well.

Having said that, there might possibly be times when folding it for 100bb is correct. But so what? You gotta have a super solid idea of what you're doing, and AA vs KK and vise versa scenarios is not what's gonna effect a balla winrate.
 
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:50 AM #13 (permalink)  
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 Funny how I post that then shortly thereafter I get this hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($208.85)
MP1 ($177.65)
MP2 ($138.60)
CO ($92.80)
Button ($139.55)
SB ($298.80)
BB ($100)
UTG ($279.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K.
UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $24, 6 folds, UTG raises to $279.05, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $51

I'm supremely confident that villian doesn't ever felt anything other than AA and KK here.
 
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:10 AM #14 (permalink)  
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