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Old 03-03-2008, 10:36 PM     Post subject: 100nl, KK on Ace high flop two hands #1 (permalink)  
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this shit happened to me twice during a very short session. Assuming that i played my hand this way, what else can i do but puke on the river ? Should i bet much more on the flop or check behind instead vs these types of villains?

hand 1: villain is 47.5/27.1/12 over 57 hands, likely a donk.
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UTG ($20.50)
UTG+1 ($98.50)
MP1 ($105.20)
MP2 ($100)
Hero ($100.15)
CO ($80.55)
Button ($193.30)
SB ($73.10)
BB ($121.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, SB calls $5.50, 1 fold, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($15) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8.

Turn: ($31) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($31) (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero ?

hand 2: villain is 45/0/0.3 over 25 hands, unknown.
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UTG+1 ($98)
MP1 ($81.65)
MP2 ($94.70)
MP3 ($93.90)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($27.45)
BB ($41.40)
Hero ($160.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K.
Hero raises to $4, 6 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 4, J, A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5.

Turn: ($19) T (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($39) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $39
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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no stats on the first guy?
We just don't beat anything here, but the river could be like a KQ or small pair that stuck around on the flop because he thought you were c-betting. It takes a read. As it stands a fold looks pretty good, this is a flush, 2p, set, or weak ace a lot of the time.

The second hand looks good.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:13 AM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1: his stat is 47.5/27.1/12 over 57 hands, more than likely a loose donk. my real question in these two hands is whether i should c-bet more on Ace high flush drawing flop like 2/3 pot? If we are playing against tigh nitty players, i believe that checking behind on this flop might give us more value, right?

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no stats on the first guy?
We just don't beat anything here, but the river could be like a KQ or small pair that stuck around on the flop because he thought you were c-betting. It takes a read. As it stands a fold looks pretty good, this is a flush, 2p, set, or weak ace a lot of the time.

The second hand looks good.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:45 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 I think you should stop c-betting A high flops as you'll most be called only by better. Instead, try to check and as in hand 1 wait for villain to bet turn and take a stab on the pot knowing he is very aggro. You'll get more value out of your KK this way.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:46 AM #5 (permalink)  
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bet turn in hand 1, as played fold river

#2 is fine
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