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nogenius
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07-28-2006, 12:18 AM
Post subject: 100NL JJ led into on flop
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($60.15)
SB ($50.95)
BB ($42.65)
UTG ($101.15)
UTG+1 ($25.60)
MP1 ($111.35)
Hero ($101.20)
CO ($100)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J , J . CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, BB calls $5, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.
Flop: ($15.50) 7, 2, Q (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero ???
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Cocco_Bill
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Call
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IowaSkinsFan
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ummm i call and find out more info on the turn. i think you are winning but not sure enough to make a move.
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Fnord
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He's likely got a weak made hand, I usually just fold this.
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Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by Fnord
He's likely got a weak made hand, I usually just fold this.
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Weak, he has position and a flush draw and the bet is only 1/3 of the pot.
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Cocco_Bill
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Alternative play is to make a potsized raise on the flop, but I would prefer to do it with a hand which totally missed. This looks like a feeler bet from a hand which can't take much pressure, either that or its a monster looking for action.
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Lukie
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I would call here.
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
Alternative play is to make a potsized raise on the flop, but I would prefer to do it with a hand which totally missed. This looks like a feeler bet from a hand which can't take much pressure, either that or its a monster looking for action.
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This is very close to all-in...
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Cocco_Bill
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lukie
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
Alternative play is to make a potsized raise on the flop, but I would prefer to do it with a hand which totally missed. This looks like a feeler bet from a hand which can't take much pressure, either that or its a monster looking for action.
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This is very close to all-in... |
ok, I didn't notice he was shortstacked
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
This looks like a feeler bet from a hand which can't take much pressure, either that or its a monster looking for action.
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Jacks no g00t and we're not drawing to the Ace or even King of 4-flush.
I issue a donk mulligan here and adjust if I think people are taking advantage of the occasional laydown like this.
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Miffed22001
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i dont think folding is that weak vs a likely short stack donkey
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Genitruc
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i think you have to call short-stack non-ninja's range is huge i ve seen this play many times with the nuts but also w hands as weak as a7 no diamond
u r getting about 3.7-1 and diamond may very likely give you best hand. You are also very possibly holding the best hand at present.
I don't see anything wrong with playing this passivly vs shorty.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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