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nogenius
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08-04-2006, 02:37 AM
Post subject: 100NL JJ facing two raises PF
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($143.75)
MP3 ($76.50)
CO ($35.65)
Button ($216.25)
SB ($79.25)
BB ($156.40)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($98.90)
Hero ($105.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , J .
UTG raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero ???
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UTG is 33/11, MP1 is 36/11.
What's your move here?
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Miffed22001
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call.
flop a set make money.
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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Cocco_Bill
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08-04-2006, 03:35 AM
Post subject: Re: 100NL JJ facing two raises PF
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Originally Posted by nogenius
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($143.75)
MP3 ($76.50)
CO ($35.65)
Button ($216.25)
SB ($79.25)
BB ($156.40)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($98.90)
Hero ($105.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , J .
UTG raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero ???
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UTG is 33/11, MP1 is 36/11.
What's your move here?
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Assuming that you have played enough hands with them, then you are clearly ahead of their range. You should raise.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by nogenius
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($143.75)
MP3 ($76.50)
CO ($35.65)
Button ($216.25)
SB ($79.25)
BB ($156.40)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($98.90)
Hero ($105.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , J .
UTG raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero ???
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UTG is 33/11, MP1 is 36/11.
What's your move here?
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Assuming that you have played enough hands with them, then you are clearly ahead of their range. You should raise. |
why bluff with a showdown-worthy hand preflop against some fish?
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Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by nogenius
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($143.75)
MP3 ($76.50)
CO ($35.65)
Button ($216.25)
SB ($79.25)
BB ($156.40)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($98.90)
Hero ($105.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , J .
UTG raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero ???
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UTG is 33/11, MP1 is 36/11.
What's your move here?
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Assuming that you have played enough hands with them, then you are clearly ahead of their range. You should raise. |
why bluff with a showdown-worthy hand preflop against some fish? |
Who's bluffing?? We're raising for value and to to take control of the pot!
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bair
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by nogenius
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($143.75)
MP3 ($76.50)
CO ($35.65)
Button ($216.25)
SB ($79.25)
BB ($156.40)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($98.90)
Hero ($105.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , J .
UTG raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $3, Hero ???
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UTG is 33/11, MP1 is 36/11.
What's your move here?
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Assuming that you have played enough hands with them, then you are clearly ahead of their range. You should raise. |
why bluff with a showdown-worthy hand preflop against some fish? |
Who's bluffing?? We're raising for value and to to take control of the pot! |
tru dat
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Ravageur
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Official Montreal SwampRat
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I definitely raise here to 14$ and c-bet any flop for 3/4 pot.
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Family Cruise IMO
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Ravageur
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Official Montreal SwampRat
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I'm with Coco_Bill here....
We're putting a raise and call on QQ+ ?
I refuse to play JJ for 2 outs...and as far as showdown value, playing this 3-way or more (assuming that at least 1 or 2 more ppl will enter the pot) you've lost a ton of that value by not isolating.
I think calling is a mistake here and you're losing tons of value
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Family Cruise IMO
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Anosmic
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I think I'd want to take this down pf. A very nice raise might take it as a squeeze.
I can only see c-betting if UTG+1 calls and not UTG. Otherwise it's set it or be willing to let it go.
Then again maybe I over-estimate $100NL opponents.
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