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gametight
Old 01-04-2008, 04:27 AM     Post subject: 100nl hand against 2p2 reg. #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is a solid reg who is capable of making moves. We both do a fair bit of 3 betting eachother esspecially in steal situations.
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BB ($95)
UTG ($102.50)
UTG+1 ($99.30)
MP1 ($6.90)
MP2 ($94.20)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($197)
Hero ($93.70)
SB ($116.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 9.
5 folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, CO calls $7.

Flop: ($23.50) K, K, 3 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $18, CO raises to $186, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $59.50

He is very capable of having a big hand here like AK but could have a lower pair or air.

Was this cbet bad? Anyone calling this shove? I laid it down but it felt gross.
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:49 AM #2 (permalink)  
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as played i think he is trying to rep the fd and get looked up.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:48 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Nevermind.... looking back it was a call, marginal but a call. I suck at pot odds sometimes.
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as played i think he is trying to rep the fd and get looked up.
I thought the exact same thing when I first saw it.

At the table my thought process would be as follows. I'm calling about $65 in a pot of about $105 which means I need to win a little more than 35% of the time to break even. My flush draw will hit about 36% of the time. Villain's likely range gives him 4 outs to a lock hand (both PPs and Kx have 4 outs to a boat or quads), giving him an extra 3-4% or so in equity, so this is close to breakeven on both a call and a fold. Then I call since I gain information in knowing what his hand is here and if I draw out him then he may play worse in the future.

Looking at it now, you're calling about $64.70 in a pot of about $106.20 which requires 37.9% equity to break even. Throwing this out there so other people who read this thread won't have to do the calculations themselves, but against a king we have about 25% equity, and against JJ we have about 40.4% equity.

If villain only has AA, QQ or JJ, we've got 39.0% equity. If we add AKo, it drops to 36.7%. If we add QcTc it drops to 38.80%. If we add KQo it drops to 35.6%. If we add TT it raises to 36.6%. It seems very close to me, but after looking at some ranges I think it's breakeven enough to warrant a call for the reasons noted above.

Reads could obviously throw this one either way though.
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didnt realize CO had hero covered here either. call.
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Old 01-04-2008, 10:17 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Due to your stack size, history, and villian's likely style vs a half stack you're against stuff like QQ JJ more than expected. Villian could have JJ and simply just plan on calling pf and c/r a lot of flops.

I'm not 3betting pf, though. 3betting with marginal hands is what you wanna do with a lot behind so you don't become committed with marginal hands while maximizing FE, and if you're 3betting a lot then you have actually less FE since it's easier for villian to stack off with a worse hand but not necessarily worse than yours.

But I really have no clue how to half stack. See what Fnord says.
 
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