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Old 09-09-2010, 09:40 PM     Post subject: 100nl - fps'y looking line for value #1 (permalink)  
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 villain is 14/11 nit-tag over a decent sample. i haven't played with him in awhile but from browsing 2p2 i've discovered he's been playing much better lately since getting coached.

thus I think I can give him credit for being able to read hands and game flow better than in the past (where he played tighter and weaker).

I had already taken down 3 pots or so calling his PFR out of the blinds this session across a couple tables.

he probably views me as an aggro tag, not sure if he would see me as tricky/fps'y but I can recall raising his turn barrel once and folding to a jam on a semi-coordinated board.

anyway what do you guys think? I sized the river a bit smaller than I could have because it gives him a better price on a curiosity call and a better price on the bluff im repping.



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Old 09-09-2010, 10:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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what are you expecting him to call with that you beat?
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 weaker Ax and Kx

is this line really credible as a bluff?
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what are you expecting him to call with that you beat?
More importantly what are you trying to rep? Exactly 44,66, both of which prob lead turn?


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More importantly what are you trying to rep? Exactly 44,66, both of which prob lead turn?
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More importantly what are you trying to rep? Exactly 44,66, both of which prob lead turn?
I was under the impression that we were trying to rep a bluff.
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 thing is you reek bet-fold thin more than a bluff here
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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 I obv misunderstood and thought you were bluffing not trying to rep a bluff, and I even read the post, I must be tired...

Anyways I think your line is ok if he's even somewhat stationy/makes-curiosity-calls and can hand read, still too fpsy for me though.

If I chose to do this I may bet river bigger to make it look like we don't want a call.


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Seems decent. Not a great river for this move so I'd be a little smaller like you say (on total blanks you can bet big here), but a 14/11 is definitely opening enough Ax for this to be good.
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More importantly what are you trying to rep? Exactly 44,66, both of which prob lead turn?
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 you should be c/r 99 and 44 to some degree as well for balance imo. also its a line which seems to be vastly un-credible for some reason.
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you should be c/r 99 and 44 to some degree as well for balance imo. also its a line which seems to be vastly un-credible for some reason.
screw balance, I like this line because they call too much, why would I do this w/ 99? And I think 44 is a fold pre here.
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:17 AM #15 (permalink)  
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 am i expected to never be bluffing here?
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:46 AM #16 (permalink)  
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i assume a guy this nitty wont have anything ever to call you with and its not a common spot enough on turn for him to start reshipping his marginals.

i prefer leading turn on most occasions.
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