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Old 02-26-2010, 10:14 PM     Post subject: 100NL, a few trivial vunlerable one pair hands #1 (permalink)  
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hand 1: villian is a 12/10/3 heavy multitabling regular with 5% 3 bet on BT. Is my turn &river play too weak vs his range?
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BB ($117.50)
UTG ($105.20)
Hero (UTG+1) ($116.40)
MP1 ($454.75)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($100)
CO ($141.85)
Button ($100)
SB ($49.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J
1 fold, Hero bets $4, 4 folds, Button calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 10, 4, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button calls $6

Turn: ($21.50) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

River: ($21.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $15, Hero ?

hand 2: villian is 13/8/2 regular with only 20% ATS% from sb. Again, too weak??

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CO ($100)
Button ($100)
SB ($102.20)
Hero (BB) ($106.65)
UTG ($96.55)
MP1 ($118.25)
MP2 ($81.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 9
5 folds, SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) 2, 9, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($12) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero folds

hand 3: villian is 40/15/2 over 200 hands. The guy is kinda aggressive postflop.
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UTG+1 ($34.05)
MP1 ($109.25)
MP2 ($60.40)
Hero (CO) ($100)
Button ($110.80)
SB ($19)
BB ($45.40)
UTG ($20.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9
2 folds, MP1 bets $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 6, 2, 5 (2 players)
MP1 bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($21.50) 2 (2 players)
MP1 bets $17, [color=#666666][i]Hero ?
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Old 02-26-2010, 11:30 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 I probably just call as I don't see much value in a raise. I definitely think folding is a mistake unless you have a convincing read otherwise. If his hand was so strong, he really should have bet the turn. And I'm going to need to see his hand before I'll give him credit for that in the future.

I probably fold hand #2 pre-flop but if you're going to call, I don't see why you'd fold the turn. If you WOULD fold the turn as you did, it's even more of a reason to fold next time because you're not flopping two pairs, trips, straights, and flushes enough to overcome calling.

Hand 3 is a little more tricky. Yes, he's loose. Yes, 15% PFR is on the high side, but it's not crazy lag either in terms of aggression. I don't know if he's positionally aware, but his raise did come from an earlier position which make it more credible of a hand as opposed to some blind steal situation. I probably lean towards a fold. You're getting pushed out with AK, 77-88, and some crazy suited crap sometimes, but TT-AA, A2, some sets, and two pairs show up more often I'd suspect. He's very interested in this pot and if he's interested in EVERY pot, you'll find a better spot I think or you should already have a note like "won't let go postflop" instead of "kinda aggressive postflop".
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:00 AM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1: My hand looks like whiffed AK. Do FR regulars often turn their made hands into bluff?
hand 2: Just because i flop TP doesnt mean i have to call down light two or three streets vs a regular, right? I folded cuz i figured that he probably DB for value on two flush draw turn. J9s is good enough to call ip and steal the pot later especially when these guys just cbet and give up. 3 bet preflop is certainly a viable option in sb vs bb.
hand 3: It looks like he DB for vaule but could also bluff on the turn, Either way,i dont know what to do on the turn vs this fish, honestly.
any more comments ?
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Old 03-06-2010, 06:38 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 1. So you expect him to bluff with 88/99/JJ? I'm c/f river maybe betting turn I honestly don't know how to get 2 streets out of it but bet flop/check turn/c/c river seems bad because he can easily have a full house all of those cards hit his range and he's rarely turning his other hands (only 88/99/JJ imo) into a bluff.

2. You have to at least call preflop. As played fold as he should have you pretty dominated.

3. Yeah I just muck turn. Kind of crappy to call flop and fold that turn but it's a pretty big bet and his range is still pretty tight.
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:17 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 1. c/c flop, fold river as played

2. call, he has enough semibluffs and you have some outs with a lot behind

3. call, call 70% of rivers
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Old 03-08-2010, 08:57 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 Agree with renton, although you can bet flop and c/f from there in hand 1
 
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