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ATOTHEC101

07-23-2008, 02:11 AM Post subject: 100nl- coupla tough spots.

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Villain in this hand is a super nit runnin 10/1 over 400 hands. but hes also a reg, his a.f is 2.4 but turn a.f is a bit higher at 5. He never has a 3 here so im only worried of kk and aa, but its possible he could have both, yet thinking of zeebo theorem and the fact id been running him over the last few orbits its possible hes just getting frustated with a lower boat, all in or fold this turn guys?, comments on all streets welcome.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($90.15)
MP2 ($97.60)
MP3 ($102)
CO ($141.50)
Button ($37.65)
SB =#A500AF(Villain)/ ($100)
BB ($78.35)
Hero ($112.85)
UTG+1 ($75.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, Q

.
Hero raises to $4, 6 folds, SB =#A500AF(Villain)/ calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 3

, 3

(2 players)
Villain bets $1, Hero raises to $10, Villain calls $9.

Turn: ($29) 2

(2 players)
Villain bets $2, Hero raises to $25, Villain raises to $53, Hero raises to $98.85 (All-In), Villain calls $33 (All-In).

River: ($213.85) K

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $201

Villain in this hand is a vey competent reg runnin 14/11 over 1400 hands, with an af of 2. im primarily concerned with all boats here. Its also possible villain is just turning his small to mid pair into a bluff trying to get me off an overpair or has simply made a lower flush with jq,j10 diamonds etc. This is a super standard felt right, i can never fold here can I? O and if we are getting it in do you just call the turn in the hope he bets the river with his bluffs.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($215.05)
SB ($40)
BB ($100)
UTG ($38.50)
UTG+1 =#A500AF(Villain)/ ($152.70)
MP1 ($115.80)
MP2 ($94)
MP3 ($284.25)
Hero ($103.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, A

. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG+1 =#A500AF(Villain)/ calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4.5, 3 folds, UTG+1 =#A500AF(Villain)/ calls $3.50.

Flop: ($10.50) 3

, 3

, 4

(3 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $7.5, Villain calls $7.50.

Turn: ($25.50) 2

(3 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $16, Villain raises to $38, Hero raises to $91.5 (All-In), Villain calls $53.50.

River: ($208.50) 2

(3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $208.50

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jimmy44

07-23-2008, 08:11 AM

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Hand 1: The min bet/3bet on turn is generally a very strong line. From a 10/1 guy I would expect an even stronger one. I believe we should find a fold after the turn 3bet. I don't believe he does this often enough with JJ/TT

Hand 2: If you want to give villain the opportunity to bluff you off your potential overpair, than you have to call his min raise on turn. 3bet/shove on TURN will not get called by worst often enough.

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07-23-2008, 08:52 AM

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I don't think either hand is tough. Even in the QQ hand I think your hand is too strong to think about folding.

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07-23-2008, 09:17 AM Post subject: Re: 100nl- coupla tough spots.

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hand 1 (I guess vs i9nite) is a horrible spot - turn re-raise less is better unless you're happy to play for stacks
hand 2 well played

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07-23-2008, 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

I don't think either hand is tough. Even in the QQ hand I think your hand is too strong to think about folding.

Do you think this guy can do this with even 88-99?

Quote:

Originally Posted by daven

hand 2 well played

I used to play like this also, but I don't think it's the optimum play.
What hands do you think villain would call our push? Set/quads/lower flush draw (he doesn't have the A and K of diamonds) and maybe KK+. With these hands he's gonna stack off anyway on the river (maybe not a low flush if a diamond hits again and maybe not KK+). I believe here we should try to get more value from other hands where villain would like to bluff river OOP.

ATOTHEC101

07-23-2008, 01:25 PM

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ok well the nit in the first hand was UCSDeacon, who had been cold callin my ep raises quite frequently, but untill now had basically folded to every c bet I made, id also raised a couple of his limps to. i raised turn to just under pot as thats exactly what id do with my bluffs trying to get the nit off any pair he might be holding, but due to the gameflow i really didnt think he was in the mood to fold a fullhouse so i bet heavily to get max value, i was quite shocked by his turn minreraise.

In regards to hand 2 i think maybe just calling the turn and calling the river is the best line as if i call i still have $53.5 left and its possible he thinks he has enough fold equity to bluff me off my hand.

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07-23-2008, 01:52 PM

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nothing fancy here. ALL-IN in these two hands before the river all day.

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07-23-2008, 03:25 PM

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hand one the turn minreraise is absolutely sickening and i want to say fold.

hand 2 i don't think a competent reg is going to be bluff halfpot shoving the river often, if you think he's FOS often you can call and FOLD the river to a shove but personally I just get it in on the turn.

edit: This hand is hard... idk how much he's going to be calling w/ lower flushes preflop, I would suggest very rarely, his range seems a lot like FHs/air which is gross...

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ATOTHEC101

07-23-2008, 04:16 PM

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ok results: hand 1 the nit had jj, i think he just got really frustrated due to gameflow and how i was running him over, i didnt expect him to play jj like that.

hand 2: villain had 44 for the boat, the main hand i was worried about :/.

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