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ATOTHEC101
Old 08-09-2008, 04:13 AM     Post subject: 100nl, bullying the tag regs- spew? #1 (permalink)  
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Ok in this hand the guy whose raising is a solid tag running 14/12/4.

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MP2 ($138.50)
MP3 ($117.65)
villain ($151.45)
Button ($109.85)
Hero ($122.65)
BB ($49.75)
UTG ($35.70)
UTG+1 ($80)
MP1 ($22.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 3.
5 folds, villain raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, villain calls $7.50.

I 3 bet as this guys blind steal is reasonably high (30 %) and most of the time hell simply fold to this 3 bet unless he has a strong hand. When he calls his range in my opinion is all pps, and ak,aq,ajs,kqs and possibly some sc's as were deeper than normal.

Flop: ($23) 5, J, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $16, villain calls $16.

I c bet for just over 3/4s pot hoping to fold out all the broadways that missed and pps under 8s that didnt make a set. When he calls i put him mainly on 77-1010,aj,qq,jj,aa and some draws.

Turn: ($55) K (2 players)
Hero bets $35...

This is a great card to double barrel, hes good enough to not float with ak on the flop, and now if i bet again he has to fold all his pairs 77-1010, missed draws and possibly even qq/aj as im repping a very strong range and he knows im solid and wont bet unless i have the goods, im only majorly worried about sets and aa at this point. So do you think this line is half decent or spew?

In this hand the original raiser is a donk running 26/9 and the squeezer is a solid tag running 12/10/5. Converter isnt showing actions so heres original hh.

Seat 1: Acesdad ($118.60)
Seat 2: fastamg ($0), is sitting out
Seat 3: El Nino 1 ($177.65)
Seat 4: Runkas ($108.80)
Seat 6: TheJunkie ($61)
Seat 7: ATOTHEC101 ($100)
Seat 8: dikemp ($156.55)
Seat 9: LoveBoat77 ($200.80)
dikemp posts the small blind of $0.50
LoveBoat77 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ATOTHEC101 [2s 2h]
3 folds
TheJunkie raises to $3
ATOTHEC101 calls $3
dikemp raises to $13

I just call with my 22 as im happy to play against the donk is position, however, when the tag sb with the highish af 3 bets to $13 i smell a squeeze, not just because this would be a perfect time to squeeze but because his bet size is a little to big to be a big hand, only off by a dollar or so but i just thought something wasnt right with the sizing, and if he does have a hand i feel itll be something like 33-jj or just weak broadways/sc's, which hell fold to a raise.


ATOTHEC101 raises to $30

I go with my read and represent alot of strength by 4 betting, hoping he folds the range i mentioned above, i make sure not to 4 bet too big to cost myself the minimum if he 5 bet jams. so do you like this line also?
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 I'd wait for a little higher SCs to 3bet with, and I'm meh on postflop - seems ok but I'm not going to call it great. It's OK to give up OOP with a zero showdown equity hand.

Hand 2 I hate. What hands do you flat the original raise with that you would now 4bet with? AA is the only believable legit hand you could have as Im sure you'd 3bet KK and you probably shouldn't 4bet QQ (and should probably have 3bet it), and even then, you'd usually be 3betting AA. Your play looks like BS and it is. Also there's nothing fishy about his 3bet sizing.
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:53 AM #3 (permalink)  
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meh i can see your points with hand 2, but fyi against the original raiser i wouldnt 3 bet aa,kk very often at all and qq only some of the time as he was a passive donk who would fold 90 percent of the time to a 3 bet here and id be playing in position with only the blinds behind me to act.Im basically repping those hands and even ak, but the main point is i thought he was fos so often hell fold a ton to this 4 bet and wouldnt have the balls to 5 bet bluff or even shove with a hand weaker than ak/jj upwards.
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Old 08-09-2008, 06:26 PM #4 (permalink)  
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SB Villain is a solid 2+2er who has only i have running at 15/10 5 over 500 hands.

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MP1 ($40.10)
MP2 ($57.65)
MP3 ($211.40)
Hero ($181.15)
Button ($193.55)
SB ($100.50)
BB ($127.35)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 5.
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, 1 fold.

Final Pot: $21

Are hands like this and the ones above such massive crap?
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i really dislike smooth/4betting over squeezes because it is rarely aces or kings, QQ at best and i felt with AK/QQ. Also i i think not 3b aa/kk is pretty bad esp vs hudge fish.
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Old 08-10-2008, 01:34 AM #6 (permalink)  

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these are good if villain is alih99999 he is an ultra nit and will fold fast
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