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Old 10-08-2009, 02:16 PM     Post subject: 100nl - AK facing passive line from UTG in 3 way pot #1 (permalink)  
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 No stats or reads, villain is unknown. However, he is repping his Supernova status, so he's likely some sort of weakish tag.

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UTG+1 ($96.05)
MP1 ($77.75)
MP2 ($113.25)
MP3 ($207.30)
CO ($100)
Hero (Button) ($103)
SB ($174.90)
BB ($56)
UTG ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A
UTG bets $4, 2 folds, MP2 calls $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($13.50) K, 3, 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $9, UTG calls $9, 1 fold

Turn: ($31.50) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG calls $22

River: ($75.50) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $68 (All-In)

I think for my sizing flop should have been a big bigger, however when villain checks this flop I don't really give him credit for Kx or AA given the board texture and the fact that he's up against 2 villains. In this case I imagine his range is pretty weighted towards TT-QQ not sure of what to do. This appears more evident as he c/c's. So I guess my sizing is good since I'm targeting this portion of his range?

Given this though I'm not sure I like jamming the river, perhaps a bet in the $20-$30 range would work better - this is course does look like pure value, so I shoved and hoped villain would just look at my line as really bluffy. I think it is also possible he could have KQ here and was trying to pot control or something on the flop so there's no way he'll get away from that on the river.

I didn't feel the flush draw completing on the turn changed much because assuming he's a 'standard tag-fish' of some sort he probably would bet the flop with a flush draw - and presumeably there aren't many flush draw combo's he can have anyway.

I appreciate any feedback on where my thinking is off. Would like to hear what you guys think is best on the river. I think if I bet larger on the earlier streets I would set up a smaller shove and villain may feel 'priced in' with a wider calling range.
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:41 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I think I'd bet more on the flop since QQ JJ TT is probably going to c/c any size.

On the turn I think your sizing is fine b/c it's pretty bad for him to be calling 2 streets on this card with TT-QQ so less is probably better if you feel like this is what his range is weighted towards. However, I think you can bet more for the reason that this is a spade turn so TsTx etc will now be peeling again where as they would fold without a draw so I guess I like betting like $26 for that reason and also yeah if he does go "odds odds odds" on the river you have more chance of being looked up.

This river is awesome as now he calls with QQ etc way more often. I'm almost suprised he didn't look you up.

 
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:35 PM     Post subject: Re: 100nl - AK facing passive line from UTG in 3 way pot #3 (permalink)  
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 Good point in regards to flop sizing.
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 really depends on which SN this is for me to decide
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really depends on which SN this is for me to decide
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 usually 3-betting pre, but i don't hate calling as much as most probably do.

Man, i'd just bet like 19 dollars on the river. He just never has anything to call, so you need a bad image for shoving to be best.
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usually 3-betting pre, but i don't hate calling as much as most probably do.

Man, i'd just bet like 19 dollars on the river. He just never has anything to call, so you need a bad image for shoving to be best.
22>19, both literally and figuratively
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 The more I think about it the more I like betting 22 because it seems to be the most tilt/spew inducing size given it's exactly what I bet on the turn.
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