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Old 08-13-2008, 06:42 AM     Post subject: 100NL AA vs unkown #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is unknown, just 4 hands on him but he's VP$IP'ed in 3 of them without ever raisng pf. I considered checking behind the turn when the FD came in but now that I've bet the turn I'm committed on the river, yes? Unkowns donking the river after flatting twice makes me nervous.


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UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($106.55)
MP2 ($20.50)
Hero ($97.50)
CO ($115.35)
Button ($147.85)
SB ($53.90)
BB ($111.50)
UTG ($67.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, A.
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($7) J, 2, Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5.

Turn: ($17) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12.

River: ($41) T (2 players)
SB bets $25, Hero raises to $50, SB calls $8.90 (All-In).

Final Pot: $108.80
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:52 AM #2 (permalink)  
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a ten is probably the worst card for you. i think this leans fold. when donks c/c c/c than lead they almost always have it.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:03 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 this is almost definitely a fold but 2nd best option is obviously call...why did you shove?

what do you mean by committed? can you explain this in math/poker theory terms?
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:36 PM #4 (permalink)  
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played well up till the river but once he donks id just fold, i definitely wouldnt shove though for his last 9 dollars as youre basically burning money.
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:43 PM #5 (permalink)  
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played well up till the river but once he donks id just fold, i definitely wouldnt shove though for his last 9 dollars as youre basically burning money.
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:55 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 The flop pot is $7, and the effective stacks are ~$50 on the flop, so your SPR is a little over 7 and so PNLly-speaking you're not automatically committed to your hand post-flop.

With that having been said, I think the river is a fold. I don't know of any hands that you beat that c/c, c/c, lead river.

Also note that even if you felt like you were committed, this is a call rather than a raise on the river.
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:18 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I suppose I chucked in the extra $9 for dramatic effect more than anything.

My gut told me to fold, you guys say to fold, I didn't fold, he had a baby flush =]
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I suppose I chucked in the extra $9 for dramatic effect more than anything.

My gut told me to fold, you guys say to fold, I didn't fold, he had a baby flush =]
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