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pokerfan
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07-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Post subject: 100NL, AA obvious fold or not?
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4-of-a-Kind
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vilain is a sorta loose passive unknown. Do you guys insta call his shove or fold to what he represented?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($55.55)
UTG ($59)
UTG+1 ($73.30)
MP1 ($76)
MP2 ($141.35)
MP3 ($42)
CO ($26)
Hero ($102.70)
SB ($57)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , A .
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $5.50, BB calls $5, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.
Flop: ($20) K , 4, T (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $6, Hero raises to $18, SB folds, BB calls $12.
Turn: ($56) K (2 players)
BB bets $31.55 (All-In), Hero ?
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Fnord
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I'd pay it off.
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BankItDrew
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pay it off
raise a lot more on the flop. pot it for ex
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
raise a lot more on the flop
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I was going to post this, but with so little behind I don't mind it so much as the raise commits us anyway and action from worse hands is good.
With deeper money, the small flop raise is a pretty big mistake.
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jimmy44
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By experience, he doesn't have the K very often here! I expect more a FD or OESD.
I pay this off!
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by jimmy44
By experience, he doesn't have the K very often here!
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Hard to tell. 50/50 wouldn't surprise me. I think you'll see a Ten here a fair amount as well.
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jimmy44
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by jimmy44
By experience, he doesn't have the K very often here!
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Hard to tell. 50/50 wouldn't surprise me. I think you'll see a Ten here a fair amount as well. |
My (small) experience tells me that short stacks don't often have a K here. Otherwise, they'll check-raise TURN or bet RIVER.
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pokerfan
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so we 've got to call in this spot even if he is passive  As played, i fold to his sudden aggression. Maybe too weak 
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jimmy44
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
vilain is a sorta loose passive unknown
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The word unknown doesn't make him 0 AF 
If villain was something like: 30/3/1 over 300+ hands, it would be different, but even so, you're getting 2.7 - 1 with an overpair with OESD & FD on the board ...
Let's say the worst case scenario that he has a K. The times he would call the flop would make him loose more money compared to the times he would hit a K on the turn and we pay him off.
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sucks but call, id be thankful he doesnt have more chips and call
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d0zer
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I think it's a marginal call. I still make it, but I think villain shows up with a K a lot here. If he's truly passive, I think he c/c's a turn shove with a T or a draw far more than he makes the shove with the above hands...
Passive villain who insta shoves this turn I probably fold. LAGGier villain I'm happy to call.
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