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pokerfan
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08-24-2008, 01:21 AM
Post subject: 100nl, AA flat 3 bet but ran into a tough spot
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4-of-a-Kind
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villain is 10.5/7.3/6 over 246 hands. i flat his 3 bet oop and wanted to get my money in good after the flop. Should i still stick with my original game plan after his turn shove ? 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG+1 ($106.05)
Hero (MP1) ($120.45)
MP2 ($246.65)
CO ($100.00)
Button ($96.00)
SB ($94.50)
BB ($52.05)
UTG ($100.00)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1.00, Hero raises to $5.00, 1 fold, CO raises to $15.00, 4 folds, Hero calls $10.00
Flop: ($32.50) K K J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20.00, Hero calls $20.00
Turn: ($72.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $65.00 (All-In), [color=#666666][i]Hero ?
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ATOTHEC101
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urrrrg, this is a horrible spot, but im a station in this sort of scenario where i had a set plan laid out the whole time and would call his shove :/.
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
urrrrg, this is a horrible spot, but im a station in this sort of scenario where i had a set plan laid out the whole time and would call his shove :/.
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Dammt it, my confidence was dropped drastically.
AK: 4 combos
QQ: 4 combos
JJ:3 combos
KK: 1 combos
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ATOTHEC101
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i know i shouldnt look at af too much but if his af was like 2-0 id say it was a fold, but as its relatively high for fullring he could just be re isoing with marginal hands and just be going ape shit with a draw hes magiced on the flop/turn. wishful thinking i know but you cant count his range as simply the ones listed above. I guess this should be a fold and im usually a stack off nit but in this instance im calling. btw, what was his 3 bet %?
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
urrrrg, this is a horrible spot, but im a station in this sort of scenario where i had a set plan laid out the whole time and would call his shove :/.
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Dammt it, my confidence was dropped drastically.
AK: 4 combos
QQ: 4 combos
JJ:3 combos
KK: 1 combos |
AcQc also
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
i know i shouldnt look at af too much but if his af was like 2-0 id say it was a fold, but as its relatively high for fullring he could just be re isoing with marginal hands and just be going ape shit with a draw hes magiced on the flop/turn. wishful thinking i know but you cant count his range as simply the ones listed above. I guess this should be a fold and im usually a stack off nit but in this instance im calling. btw, what was his 3 bet %?
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10/7 tight players usually have higher AF. i didnt really check his 3 bet stat cuz i only logged in 242 hands.
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
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Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
urrrrg, this is a horrible spot, but im a station in this sort of scenario where i had a set plan laid out the whole time and would call his shove :/.
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Dammt it, my confidence was dropped drastically.
AK: 4 combos
QQ: 4 combos
JJ:3 combos
KK: 1 combos |
AcQc also |
i doubt that a 10/7 guy 3 bet with AcQc and continued 3 barrel bluffing in 3 bet pot in position.
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bigspenda73
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why not, your line doesn't represent a whole lot of strength
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badgers
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I think this is a c/f and I don't think it's close. If I had to put him on a range it would be AK/KK/AA/sometimes JJ (since i dunno if he's 3betting JJ) and that's it. I don't think a 10/7 3bets AQs frequently, it's even more unlikely given that's we're already isolating. AF of 6 is pretty damn high but given how nitty he is and the small sample size it's not even remotely close to being enough of a read to suspect he's 3betting/double barreling air here and we're clearly crushed by his vbetting range.
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daven
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he's a nit and he's 3-betting... i bet fold or check fold this flop.
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Other than AcQc, I can't see villain making this play with weaker holdings. AQs is a very small part of this range here, I'm letting it go.
Looks like AK/JJ all the way.
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looks very much like JJ.
Dont like flatting preflop when you look like you are isolating
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