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100nl 66set in bb - rep a flush draw c-r all in?

  
 
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Old 08-23-2008, 10:33 PM     Post subject: 100nl 66set in bb - rep a flush draw c-r all in? #1 (permalink)  
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 not sure exactly why i thought this would look like a flush draw. villain 1 is likely bad, co thinks too much sometimes, but generally solid..
stupid line?

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UTG+1 ($94.90)
MP1 ($346.50)
MP2 ($100.00)
CO ($146.95)
Button ($81.45)
Hero (SB) ($101.85)
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 6
2 folds, MP1 raises to $3.50, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.00, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) Q 6 3 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $6.00, Hero raises to $98.35 (All-In)

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don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 08-23-2008, 10:43 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I really hate a check raise on this board.
If i think about the hands id have:
decent tp hand, fd (probably with an over) so strong draw, sets

All of that range i want to bet/3bet all in or bet/3bet flop shove turn and not check/raise so i hate the flop play
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I really hate a check raise on this board.
If i think about the hands id have:
decent tp hand, fd (probably with an over) so strong draw, sets

All of that range i want to bet/3bet all in or bet/3bet flop shove turn and not check/raise so i hate the flop play

why? b/3b is going to get a lot of folds on this board because your opponent rarely has anything. At least with a c/r we get a bet out of him.
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:24 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I c/r this board all day long because I want to get the money in asap. I dislike b/3b because they aren't going to raise that often and there are a lot of turns that can slow down the action. We're getting all-in against FDs a lot when we c/r and we put TP in an awkward spot instead of "oh he donks so I call and re-eval turn".

Also I'm c/ring always here with decent draws so it balances better if anyone's paying attention.

So I like he c/r but the size is COMPLETE OVERKILL and silly, expecially if you look at villain's bet sizing. Also it is worh noting if villain has a draw himself you just blew him off it instead of giving him the chance to shove over your raise (which he would have done with a draw since your line can be interpretted as spotting weakness in his bet if you raise to $20 or something).
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I really hate a check raise on this board.
If i think about the hands id have:
decent tp hand, fd (probably with an over) so strong draw, sets

All of that range i want to bet/3bet all in or bet/3bet flop shove turn and not check/raise so i hate the flop play

why? b/3b is going to get a lot of folds on this board because your opponent rarely has anything. At least with a c/r we get a bet out of him.
how about bet/bet/shove.
I dont think your opponent is going to like QJ/KQ on turn when you pot it setting up a river shove, or a c/r all in.
Lots of money going in and the pressure decisions are on your opponent not you - equals +ev from my perspective.
I prefer to bet for the simple reason that if i chose to bet this board at any stage my stack goes in the middle with all my range by later streets, or sometimes im just stabbing with AT/KT type hands trying to stop n go the blind stealing.
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